just so you know, I have killed them with lead, Hevi13, Heavyweight, and TSS. I was not a fan of Hevi13 but will say if I were not shooting TSS, I think I would shoot Longbeards. I roll my own so I can control what goes in and how they are loaded
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....