@dixie_Dude I use the RCBS Collet bullet puller. To me it's a lot less fustrating than pounding the crud out of the kinetic. I also break the crimp first using a seating die (seat to loaded round than back out one full turn if the die; seat the stem on the bullet and add 1/8 of a turn). Breaking the crimp makes it easier to pull.
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