I've owned two Mesas in the past, one in 300WM and one in 6.5 Creedmoor. The 300 shot under an inch with what it liked and the Creedmoor wouldn't do better than an inch. I sold the Creedmoor and traded the 300 for something else...now I'm back to another 300WM in the Mesa, but "Black" this time...so it "might" shoot better, ha. Just got the thing. 1 1/4 to 1.5 for big guns is just fine for me and the way I hunt. For varmints and coyotes I want sub MOA, there's just too many rifles out there that will do that, case in point, my recent Tikka T3 Lite in .243! Awesome, cost 2/3 of what the Mesa did.