I shoot a Whip from Dan Toelke (Montana Bow). I can't handle a heavy bow any more so used this one this season. I lost our main hunting spot through owner selling so expectations were modest and never shot a deer with long bow. Did manage to shoot a young 4 pt at about 12 yds. The Whip is a great bow in my opinion and like shooting it even more than my recurves. Good luck with your search.
