My main turkey getter is a winchester 1300 camo laminated stock w/22" barrel. I use the extra full winchoke. I used to use 2 oz. Fed./Win. #4's. Now I use the 1 3/4 oz. Hi-vel. Fed/Win #4's. This combo will constantly kill out to 45 yds. or so.<P>Sometimes when nostalgic I use my old 32" full choked M12 winchester. I killed my fartherest bird with it, 55 long steps.<P>------------------<BR>