This one is about the size of a youth gun, 13" L.O.P., 22" barrel, also choked .585". I do have some 3" TSS #7's that I'll try prior to any choke work. Probably replace the recoil pad with an actual recoil pad and use it for the youth hunts I sponsor on my property. But before that, I have to fully field test it! Just to make sure it's up to standards...