Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by jwp475
Hard cast bullets and jacketed bullets have to be adequate for the task

Obviously but with all things being equal his experience was that first round hits with HP caused the bear to slow down or stop completely to bite at the wound. When the same thing happened and hard cast was used the bear didn’t react to the hit like they did with the hollow points. If time is of the essence and one type of ammo buys me more time then I would venture to say that THAT is the bullet most “adequate for the task”.

Both bullets were “adequate for the task” but the reaction from the bear was the point. 👍


Phil Shoemaker shot and killed a 900 pound Brown bear that charged him and his fishing clients with the Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman load 147 grain 9mm flat point hard cast. The bear bit at every entrance hole.

I've shot grizzly with hard cast and if the correct bullet is used the effects are immediate



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first