Have 2 now load for 5 Speer 250 gr usually leaves 2 holes in moose, shot a black bear and blood looked like someone poured it out of a paint bucket, wife shot a big black bear with the Whelen rolled into glacial lake off a cliff and sunk we never saw the bear again lung shot. Seems to work! Kurt out!

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Alaska 7 months of winter then 5 months of tourists