Appreciate the link. "As the crow flies" Mt. Orab is only about 25 miles form here. I have looked at Samurai's... The ones that have not been totally chopped / welded up to be rock crawlers always seem to be a project. One JD Gator coming up for sale next week at auction. It will probably be out of my price range. Next in line at the moment is a new base model Massimo 450 at Tractor Supply for about $8K.