I can’t catch eld-m or tmk bullets at distance.

I’m pretty sure I could run a 75gr eld-m or 88gr for the rest of my life and never blink (if legal)

That would include moose, grizz and buffalo.


Ribs on any critter I’ve pulled a tag on are absolutely minimal, and lungs are very soft tissue.. thin heavy eld-m and 77gr tmk do more tissue damage then what hunters traditionally use bullet/cartridge wise.

My elk at just under 500 had a way bigger exit and internal damage with a 108gr eld-m from a 6br then my stag did at 550 with a 270win this last summer.

Guys claiming marginal success with a 223 either makes me think they didn’t use a good bullet, or they can’t shoot.


2” plaster at 100.

20second shot timer. Standing and pack on.

A hit gets ya 2$.. let’s call a miss what an average hunt costs… 5grand.

10 shots..

10lb 6br is the only rifle I can clean it everytime.. a 223 doesn’t change hit probability but the absolute lack of fuss finding loads, coupled with it being elk legal where I draw tags means I stick with 6br.