After wearing them around the house all night, I did find that the Sitka are warmer than the thin material would suggest. They remain however, a little rough and scratchy. Not a problem with a base layer underneath, but maybe irritating for summer and early season wear. For a fabric that dries as fast as they would appear to, this may just be the trade off. Although they are cut full and stretch for steep ascents, the seam of the knee reinforcement patch rubs my knee. But other pants would probably be tight across the whole thigh.

What I'd really like is to buy a pair of 36 Microtex, and cut the waist down. But my seamstress skills aren't quite that good.

Brad, I came close to buying a pair of (stained and therefore cheap) Whipcords on ebay the other day, and got outbid and the last second!