Redmtn, I found that my Sporthills pill, hold onto EVERY bit of house fluff and tend to drag on my legs, one of which IS quite crooked. I was some choked after I washed them and have worn them for house stuff as they don't cut it for hiking in the wet/cold, for me, at least. You seem to have success with them and I respect your opinions highly, what gives, are you just a "magic"guy? smile