In .243, I load the 85 SGK over 38.0 grains of IMR 4064 and shoot it in either a Sako Hunter Mod 75 or my Ruger VT. I took a nice 5x5 mule deer several weeks ago with the Sako and this load at about 200 yards. He dropped like a brick. Shot was a bit high in the back. I backboned him.

I also use the exact same load out of my Ruger for varminting.

My g8-g8 uncle was Barney Riggs. Google and read about him. He roamed around the southwest, mainly west Tx and Az and NM territory. History credits him with from 9 - 12 men he killed, not counting Mexicans and Indians. Family lore has it at 18.