Swampman just can't seem to get himself into the 21st century CVA's and out of the dark ages.Maybe he secretly works for TC!
Honestly,i own 5 CVA's including an Apex,Optima Elite,a new Optima and a laminated stock version of the Kodiak.All are reliable,shoot great,and easy to maintain.If you do buy one,i shoot 2 or 3 50 grain 777 pellets behind 250gr SST'S and my Optima Elita and Apex both group 1"-1 1/4" at 100 yards.If you don't want to spend the extra money for the Apex and just want the muzzleloader,the new Optima with the spped breech is a great buy at around $200 on Gunbroker for the stainless version.
