PS The only waterfowl load that kicked as hard as a turkey load was the Remington Hyper Velocity stuff. My duck hunting pardner gave me a few to pattern, they hit my shoulder hard. He hunts with a Beretta Extrema II and said they kicked the crap out of him, but they worked good enough to put up with the additional recoil. I patterned them - worse of any similar load I patterned in the Benelli M2.
