Dober's right...no lube at all in the form process, until of course you resize fired brass...but not for forming.

Once it's formed,it needs nothing.

Annealing? No more than one would do to any other brass, which for me has been "never"...I don't do it.

Forming is a cake walk; I can run 50 cases through form/trim/FL in about 20 minutes, if that...it's nothing.Boom, boom, boom.

I use both COW and live fire to form brass....using COW I form 75-100 cases in 2-3 hours at the range....it's easy.

For live fire, I use Dobers load,65 IMR4350-139 HDY.I could easily hunt with it.I shoot it routinely out to 600 yards(just last week).At 600 it shoots slightly lower than full house 160's and 175's...no need to touch the sites.

I will COW another 100 rounds...plus maybe 200-300 I have accumulated through live fire....I could hunt the next 10 years with that, if I did not shoot so much. grin

BTW, you are talking to a guy who HATES to reload...I only do it because I have to to afford to shoot...this thing is a cakewalk grin

Last edited by BobinNH; 07/14/11.



The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.