Looks like you guys are having pretty good success packing goats. I tried packing lama's once. Friend of mine was raising them. I was in the outfitting business and thought they could have promise for hunting afoot in rough country. They might, but once was enough. I had an older one whose bones would be compost by now if he had been mine. Another young but mature one that was good to pack about 25 lbs, but wanted to stop and lay down every few hundred yards, and two young ones that had never been saddled. These two were the most promising, but after that trip I stuck with my mules and horses.