I guess bullets matter more than case stamps.


The 8x57 lost out due to WWII. The .30 caliber has been going strong due to military advances and the bullet companies seeing fit to offer a more broad array of long range bullets.

The .323 caliber suffers the same long range disappointments as the .25 caliber. How hard can it be to offer a A-Max in these calibers?


For pure hunting I like the 8x57, it might loose a hundred or so fps at 800 yards but no deer would know it. Neither would any game animal know that it was hit with a larger diameter bullet.

I don't really care, don't have anywhere to shoot past 500 yards and the likely hood of shooting at a deer past 400 yards is less than 5%.


I've got a 20" heavy carbine in 8x57, going to run the 170 SST and the 180 Ballistic Tip as soon as I get it ready.



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