I never meant to imply that 200 gr. 35's won't ever expand at all. Judging by the damage they inflict on deer carcasses, they apparently DO NOT expand to the degree or with the consistency of most .30-30 bullets, particularly when ranges extend. I gave up putting too much stock in what gun writers say in magazines or loading manuals long ago, particularly when it disagrees with my own experience which at this point is quite extensive, both in the field, and at the loading and gunsmithing benches. Furthermore, bullet expansion characteristics and velocity at impact have far more to do with killing effect than pre expansion bullet diameter and/or weight. If you knew HALF as much as you'd like us all to believe you do, I wouldn't have to tell you these things. Oh, and BTW, I started handloading in the early 70's and continue to this day. I rarely load for the .30-30 anymore however, as it simply adds so little to performance that I feel it's a waste of my time.