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No, I mean bet. How much you betting on Trump? ================== I bet someone your dick was bigger than your lieutenant stripe. Jealousy doesn't suit you well, Bob. Go pet a Yorkie and console yourself. Yorkie. Is that a pet name for penis? It's one of these that Bob continues to try to convince himself is actually a dog. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images23/YorkieYorkshireTerrierLiliDog5.jpg)
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Shhh...I'm boat shopping.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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The list of those on the dole got MUCH larger. That dole includes those who receive welfare and social security checks from .gov as well as those who receive paychecks from .gov. yep, clinton started the dole increase, Obama has added to it a lot...there has to be more than just that which has caused this stupidity
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But once again, who is electable? The more conservative they are, the more electable they are. Liberals made up this "gotta get the moderates" crap a few cycles back and idiots have run with it. Bingo!
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The list of those on the dole got MUCH larger. That dole includes those who receive welfare and social security checks from .gov as well as those who receive paychecks from .gov. yep, clinton started the dole increase, Obama has added to it a lot...there has to be more than just that which has caused this stupidity Actually, Reagan increased the dole considerably with the expansion of the Federal gov't. Clinton and GWB expanded it more, and Hussein is taking it to another level yet.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Baby Boomers had a bunch of kids, because there was a bunch of them and they all started to vote about that time.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Both the establishment candidates on the left and right want to implement a no fly zone over Syria because Putin is bombing hell out of the Islamic radicals that the American government is funding in order for them to make war against Assad.
You have to wonder just what Assad has gone to the West that they are backing Muslim radicals over him... It's not just Assad. The neocons have been in the business of destabilizing the Middle East for quite some time. They refer to it as "The Arab Spring",.....claim that they're doing so in order for the poor, downtrodden Muslims can experience Democracy and eventually morph into June and Ward Cleaver. What they really want is to destabilize the region to such an extent that WW3 breaks out,...and their plan is to collect the spoils of the aftermath. It sounds crazy,...but the neocons are some seriously crazy bastards.
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Baby Boomers had a bunch of kids, because there was a bunch of them and they all started to vote about that time. Hell, it was the Boomers who gave us Hippies, who gave us Carter, who gave us Clinton (as he is one), and largely gave us Hussein. It's the Boomers that populate the unions, who are the school teachers and professors pumping out the socialist propaganda.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I am not convinced that Trump will be around for the big race. I can't figure out his game yet. I'm not convinced either...that said, I was surprised he ruled out a third party run & Carson back walked his comment of leaving the party... Maybe they were reassured by the RNC there wouldn't be a brokered convention? If that's the case, we need to start seeing some of the bottom feeding "establishment" candidates dropping BEFORE the primary elections start...if that doesn't happen??? Reince Priebus was just on tv...talk about a fuggin snake.
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I had to laugh at Paul and some here on killing civilians. Paul said it was against the Constitution. I don't guess we had that during WW 2. Didn't apply to Japan and Germany. Those bombs didn't know the difference. Hasbeen Not even close to what he said. He said the deliberate targeting of civilians was a violation of international treaties on war. The fact that both Churchill and FDR did that during WWII doesn't make that less the case. They were both war criminals, along with Truman. Ike, too. In fact all sides of WWII were replete with war criminals of the highest order. That doesn't justify future war crimes.
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Both the establishment candidates on the left and right want to implement a no fly zone over Syria because Putin is bombing hell out of the Islamic radicals that the American government is funding in order for them to make war against Assad.
You have to wonder just what Assad has gone to the West that they are backing Muslim radicals over him... It's not just Assad. The neocons have been in the business of destabilizing the Middle East for quite some time. They refer to it as "The Arab Spring",.....claim that they're doing so in order for the poor, downtrodden Muslims can experience Democracy and eventually morph into June and Ward Cleaver. What they really want is to destabilize the region to such an extent that WW3 breaks out,...and their plan is to collect the spoils of the aftermath. It sounds crazy,...but the neocons are some seriously crazy bastards. Well put...& true.
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The debates are useless as a means of gauging policy or even general suitability for the job. They are all going to lie anyway. And even if they aren't consciously lying, they don't say anything to which they can be held. All it is is a beauty contest where the public gets to decide which candidate is "prettiest".
Trump is riding the wave of voter disgust. He stands the best position to win in this country because the disgust cuts across the aisles. Lots and lots of old school Democrats, the relatively few left, are upset at the American Communist party of Obama and Clinton. They'll vote for Trump and honest polling shows this.
Trump is the only guy in a long time, probably since Reagan, who can actually unite the country across party lines. And like Reagan, he is hated by the establishment.
You've had the Bush, Romney's, and the Rockefellers as power brokers in Republican politics since the early 1960s. Not people like them, but those actual families. And there are a ton more with names you might not recognize but who are there as well.
They don't care about you. This is all a game to them. They take turns trying to beat the other players in the game, the Democrats. And like any game, this one is relatively friendly. The players go hard, sometimes they even play dirty, during the game. But after the game, it is all hugs, handshakes, and promises of "We'll get you next time."
Trump is huge right now because he is the one guy who is saying, "Wait a minute, your game is fricking the country." Everyone else, is merely trying to get in on the game.
Cruz, as good as he sounds, is hard to trust. Not because I think he is lying, but because he is too young and not rich enough. If he is elected, even if he serves eight years, he could live another thirty or forty years after being president. He definitely imagines life AFTER being president. He'll be corrupted, any mortal will with the power and the money that will be thrown his way. He'll have a long life to enjoy the perks.
Trump is old enough that when he is honest for himself, there is not much imagining of life beyond office. This will be the crowning achievement of a long life of accomplishment. He needs to impress no one. He needs no favors or riches. He is the one guy in the field who can survive the temptation. That doesn't mean he'll be a good president. But it means he'll be a relatively honest one and that is probably all we can hope for these days.
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I was surprised he ruled out a third party run He didn't, to anybody who was really listening. Honest.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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I am not convinced that Trump will be around for the big race. I can't figure out his game yet. I'm not convinced either...that said, I was surprised he ruled out a third party run & Carson back walked his comment of leaving the party... Maybe they were reassured by the RNC there wouldn't be a brokered convention? If either would have said anything firm about a 3rd party run, it would have alientated a lot of people that hate the establishment old guard but still believe in a unified party. Schizopublicans.
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Lots of lying going on last night regarding foreign policy.
I heard more than one candidate infer that a no fly zone was necessary in Syria in order to stem the flow of Syrian refugees.
That's bullshit.
Both the establishment candidates on the left and right want to implement a no fly zone over Syria because Putin is bombing hell out of the Islamic radicals that the American government is funding in order for them to make war against Assad.
The war refugees coming out of Syria are running from the American government supported Islamic radicals,...not Russia. Give that man a cigar!
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I was surprised he ruled out a third party run He didn't, to anybody who was really listening. Honest. ========= I don't believe there will be a 3rd party run or a brokered convention.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward
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I've always thought that attempting to attach rules to war is a pretty silly endeavor.
When big wars break out those involved in it are fighting for their survival.
When it gets into gear, the "rules" go out the window.
The Marines fighting the island hopping campaigns in the Pacific soon learned that the rules would get them killed.
By the time they landed on Okinawa they knew that the only way to defeat the Japanese was to eliminate them. The Bushido code didn't allow for surrender.
There was a bit over 100,000 Japanese troops on Okinawa. The Marines knew by then that they didn't surrender.
It's impossible to go into that situation and play by any rules.
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I keep asking how much money Cruz has gotten from the Kochs, but nobody will answer.
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Both the establishment candidates on the left and right want to implement a no fly zone over Syria because Putin is bombing hell out of the Islamic radicals that the American government is funding in order for them to make war against Assad.
You have to wonder just what Assad has done to the West that they are backing Muslim radicals over him... It's what he stands in the way of vis a vis Israel. Israel has determined a course for itself that involves domination of the region toward what it terms "Greater Israel." Look it up. It requires the breaking down of all Muslim nations that aren't already under Israel's thumb. The US acts, both overtly and covertly, in the region on behalf of Israeli interests. Once you figure that out, everything that's been going on in the region since 9/11 makes sense. If you never figure it out, then you will find it all incomprehensible.
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I had to laugh at Paul and some here on killing civilians. Paul said it was against the Constitution. I don't guess we had that during WW 2. Didn't apply to Japan and Germany. Those bombs didn't know the difference. Hasbeen Not even close to what he said. He said the deliberate targeting of civilians was a violation of international treaties on war. The fact that both Churchill and FDR did that during WWII doesn't make that less the case. They were both war criminals, along with Truman. Ike, too. In fact all sides of WWII were replete with war criminals of the highest order. That doesn't justify future war crimes. How do you go about distinguishing who is a "combatant" & who isn't? It's pretty hard to find & define an enemy when the enemy is a radical ideology. Judging from video of middle east cities in the aftermath of 9/11, it seems pretty clear to me who the enemy is...
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