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What if it was only two million? HMMMM. Then the jews would have to "share the stage" with the Armenians, the Ukranians, and the Gypsies.

Wouldn't quite fit the narrative, would it? Let us not forget the Jew York Times' coverup of the Holodomor:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world...nian-genocide-ny-times-still-covering-up

Who's discounting the Gypsies and Armenians, or the Ukrainians or any other ethnic group including Germans (who had no relations to jews) who were hauled off never to be seen again? It's not an either or problem.

F'ing Tyranny is F'ng Tyranny! Why try to diminish any aspect of it for the sake of semantics?

The only thing I'm trying to "diminish", is control of the US economy, and possible getting one or two brainwashed people to pull their head outta their azz.

The US Congress handed MFN trade status to Red China, while the heirs to Mao's massacre of 20 MILLION + were still in power. Is a slant eye's life worth less than jew's?

The "semantic" is maybe, or more probably, highly likely that we've been conned, to the detriment of the nation.

Do a "man-in-the-street" and ask young folks about the following:

1) The Holocaust

2) The Holodomor

3) The horrific murderous thing in China that doesn't have a name.

Then get back with me.

If you read this and don't "get it", you've been brainwashed as bad as the greenies on the global warming issue.

Explain from your perspective: when does life begin?


This video indicts the entire pro-abort community as worse than Hitler and the Nazis:
http://www.silentscream.org/

Detrick Bonhoeffer resisted the Nazis because they started out killing off sick and mentally retarded children and invalids. Seems like nothing changes:
http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/baby-born-alive-after-failed-abortion-left-to-die/

As I seem to recall, the 6 million figure was for Jews with a total number killed in the 17-25 million range depending on source. The beginnings were the mid-1930s but were not nearly as efficient as later efforts.

In two days over 30,000 Jews of Kiev were shot, yes shot, and buried in the gully called Babi Yar. Many tens of thousands additional people were killed in the camp situated in the same area afterward.

The atrocity had been covered up by the Soviet government after the Nuremberg trials in spite of copious records. One of my daughter in laws is from Kiev and it is something she nor her parents knew anything about.

There were at least two other mass executions such as Babi Yar with well over 100,000 killed in a short period of time. When the Nazis got an idea into their head, they went all out to accomplish it.

I "got it" long ago. Like I said, F'ing Tyranny is F'ing Tyranny. It's all the same whether nazis killing Jews and gypsies, Turks killing Armenians, kmer rouge killing Cambodians, Chinese commies killing Chinese, stalin killing Ukranian Kulaks.... Swapping one for the other to push a personal agenda is a waste of energy.

No, you don't "get it", and you also don't "get" who has the agenda. It sure as hell ain't yours truly.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/15/its-getting-tough-to-tell-planned-parenthood-from-nazis/


German SS officer and Auschwitz “physician” Josef Mengele once wrote, “There’s only one truth and one true beauty …There’s no ‘good’ or ‘bad’ in nature. There’s only ‘appropriate’ or ‘inappropriate’… Both sides receive equal chances. Nevertheless, nature provides a strainer. Things that are ‘inappropriate’ fall through since they lose in the struggle for survival.”

More lately, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood’s senior director for medical services, had this to say: “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part. I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

It’s almost like Planned Parenthood is the strainer and babies, those inappropriate little consequences of life, fall through in the struggle for survival while the organs, the appropriate parts, survive and get sold at market. Ain’t progress grand?



.......At the End of the Day, It’s the Ethos

Eric Ferrero, Planned Parenthood’s vice president of communications, released the following response to these revelations of his organization’s organ harvesting and sales:



In health care, patients sometimes want to donate tissue to scientific research that can help lead to medical breakthroughs, such as treatments and cures for serious diseases. Women at Planned Parenthood who have abortions are no different. At several of our health centers, we help patients who want to donate tissue for scientific research, and we do this just like every other high-quality health care provider does — with full, appropriate consent from patients and under the highest ethical and legal standards. There is no financial benefit for tissue donation for either the patient or for Planned Parenthood. In some instances, actual costs, such as the cost to transport tissue to leading research centers, are reimbursed, which is standard across the medical field.


Ferrero might want to check with Nucatola about that “no financial benefit” part. He might also want to get his science on and learn the difference between tissue and an organ. As long as he’s doing some homework and not just spitting propaganda, he might want to imbibe the truth offered by Walter Sobchak in “The Big Lebowski,” because while Planned Parenthood and the National Socialist Party’s rationales for medical experimentation and murder track closely, there’s a major difference. It actually makes us realize Planned Parenthood is worse than were the Nazis.


See, Planned Parenthood is run by a bunch of nihilists, as evidenced by the fact that they obviously find life meaningless. Nihilists! I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it’s an ethos, a philosophy of life that attempts to provide meaning to and excuses for butchery. When it comes to harvesting organs for sale, solely for the sake of $30 to $100, you’ve officially abandoned any claim to an ethos, even a disgusting and misguided one. When you have no intention of stopping, because progress! even as the death toll rises, you’re nothing more than state-sponsored murderers

How any human being can casually dismiss a mother going to a "doctor" to have her own unborn child ripped to shreds as making a personal choice is absurd. The close she wears, her makeup, those are choices. Killing your child?????????

And people wonder why are world is insane and we are stuck with the "leaders" we have. When the populace can't even acknowledge the unborn and protect the most fragile of lives, it is no wonder we are where we are.

Well said, agree 100%.

Oh, you're one of those.

If 7000 can be killed with cap and ball in 3 days in 1863, killing 6 million over a 6 year period don't seem like a stretch in the least.


Hard to fathom

The 6 million number is bullshit. The actual number killed in the camps and in the field far exceeds that. Why do we only count Jews? Nobody else counts?

Not really..When you factor in the huge number of additional deaths in other categories of prisoners and the fact the camps were not all operation for the full span of the war, many people simply can't comprehend killing on such an industrial scale.

Its not just the "killing" its all the other logistics involved, primarily the disposal of the bodies.

Add to that we now perhaps three generations away from these events, so its now more a "historical event" than something that people of say my grandfathers generation actually lived through...

Look at the Spanish Flu outbreak at the end of WW1..Millions and millions died, but by the 1950's, the full horrors of it was largely forgotten by Joe Public...

Esimates are the Spanish Influenza killed 20 million worldwide.

Let us not fail to mention starvation was an efficient killer in those camps.

When you consider the number of camps and the facilities therein to process the raw materials, the numbers you cite are easily attainable. Then when you add the thousands of "on the spot" executions as the Germans moved east, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, etc, the number is not unrealistic. Total deaths caused by WII is north of 50M.

[quote=jorgeI
When you consider the number of camps and the facilities therein to process the raw materials, the numbers you cite are easily attainable. Then when you add the thousands of "on the spot" executions as the Germans moved east, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, etc, the number is not unrealistic. Total deaths caused by WII is north of 50M. [/quote]

That is an unfathomable number. More than the numbe of poeple living in Texas and Florida combined. Think about that!

This seems a rather pointless debate - only God knows the answer. Rather we should be trying to stop the next jihad attack and preserve life.

Never forget the 6 gorillion!

The functional definition of Holocaust Denial is to deviate to any degree from the received version of the story in all details. Were Jews rounded up and put in work camps? Certainly. The plan was to remove them from Germany, and ultimately from Europe, but the expansion of the war forced them to halt that activity. Did thousands of Jews die in those camps? Certainly ... perhaps several hundred thousand, according to Internaional Red Cross, the vast majority of whom died in the last months of the European Theater stage of the war due to typhus and dysintery as a consequence of supply lines having been cut off by allied bombing. Was there a German program to murder Jews, systematically or otherwise? The evidence to support this notion simply doesn't exist. It's fiction.

There was evil action going on on all sides during this period in history, before, during, and after the war. But Germany lost, so what had been Allied war propaganda became official history, which both exaggerated German crimes and swept under the rug the crimes of the Allied nations.