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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Have one on me, man from Montana.

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Not cool.....

And don't try to justify it.


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Have one on me, man from Montana.

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Not cool.....

And don't try to justify it.



He's from Oregon Pat, sooooo.......


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To make a long story short, the situation I was in caused me to reflect on what the root issue of all my problems truly are. It came down to two things:

1.) Myself. Problem
2.) Alcohol. Symptom



Travis



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If you're on the level....good luck

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Congratulations for doing the right thing in the midst of adversity.
12 steps. Keep walking man, keep walking. Those 12 steps have worked for thousands and can work for you. Just keep on keeping on.

Courage.
Best to you.
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Those here who are mocking and showing pictures or talking about drinking and doing so in poor taste. I am willing to bet this is not a big scam but even if it is it is still is poor taste at the best. If I am right and this is real then you are stabbing a good man in the back when what he need is help.


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Originally Posted by Scott F
Those here who are mocking and showing pictures or talking about drinking and doing so in poor taste. I am willing to bet this is not a big scam but even if it is it is still is poor taste at the best. If I am right and this is real then you are stabbing a good man in the back when what he need is help.


Some of those mocking may have the same problem as Travis. They just may not have the strength or balls to admit it so they feel the need mock and ridicule someone stronger than themselves. Sad.

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Originally Posted by RS308MX
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Those here who are mocking and showing pictures or talking about drinking and doing so in poor taste. I am willing to bet this is not a big scam but even if it is it is still is poor taste at the best. If I am right and this is real then you are stabbing a good man in the back when what he need is help.


Some of those mocking may have the same problem as Travis. They just may not have the strength or balls to admit it so they feel the need mock and ridicule someone stronger than themselves. Sad.


Well, part of learning to live sober is learning how to live in the world as it is.
So I guess these a-holes are giving Travis a lesson...
The world is full of a**holes, and you are not likely to change them.


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Best wishes for you and your family during this trying time.

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No intention to mock here, I hope his post is for real, but past experience has me convinced that if someone wants me to believe in change, don't tell me about it, show me.
Time will tell.


















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Originally Posted by RS308MX
Originally Posted by Scott F
Those here who are mocking and showing pictures or talking about drinking and doing so in poor taste. I am willing to bet this is not a big scam but even if it is it is still is poor taste at the best. If I am right and this is real then you are stabbing a good man in the back when what he need is help.


Some of those mocking may have the same problem as Travis. They just may not have the strength or balls to admit it so they feel the need mock and ridicule someone stronger than themselves. Sad.


This, +1.

One thing nobody has mentioned yet, Travis, when you quit drinking you discover that the "friends" you had were not really friends in many cases, just drinking buddies glad to have someone to drag down with them. You will develop a whole new set of friends and be glad you did. This was certainly the case for me when I quit almost 25 years ago, almost all my drinking buddies are dead now from the effects, one way or another.

I also discovered I had ever so much more money to spend on guns, which I immediately started doing and haven't stopped yet. laugh


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One thing nobody has mentioned yet, Travis, when you quit drinking you discover that the "friends" you had were not really friends in many cases, just drinking buddies glad to have someone to drag down with them. You will develop a whole new set of friends and be glad you did. This was certainly the case for me when I quit almost 25 years ago, almost all my drinking buddies are dead now from the effects, one way or another.

I also discovered I had ever so much more money to spend on guns, which I immediately started doing and haven't stopped yet. laugh


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Best wishes Travis. Some may think this is an elaborate joke given your sense of humor but I don't really care if you're pulling our leg, best wishes all the same.

And never lose your sense of humor.



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Originally Posted by jnyork

This, +1.

One thing nobody has mentioned yet, Travis, when you quit drinking you discover that the "friends" you had were not really friends in many cases, just drinking buddies glad to have someone to drag down with them. You will develop a whole new set of friends and be glad you did. This was certainly the case for me when I quit almost 25 years ago, almost all my drinking buddies are dead now from the effects, one way or another.

I also discovered I had ever so much more money to spend on guns, which I immediately started doing and haven't stopped yet. laugh


Agree completely. been 24 years for me, and it definitely gets better.
I know that I can decide to drink tomorrow, but I honestly can't imagine it.
If you are still thinking you were having fun, you're probably not ready yet.


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Originally Posted by deflave
As many of you know I've had a problem with alcohol for some time. And as some of you know this problem came to a head about a month or so ago when I not only lost some very close friends, but I also came very close to losing my family.

To make a long story short, the situation I was in caused me to reflect on what the root issue of all my problems truly are. It came down to two things:

1.) Myself.
2.) Alcohol.

This was not any easy thing to admit but once I admitted it, the changes (all for the better) started unfolding.

I am on my way to recovery and I thought that I had apologized to everybody that I had hurt in the past. Until I was visiting with an individual that attends the same AA meetings I do. He had mentioned that he logged onto Facebook and apologized to all the people he had never met, but assuredly offended and attacked while intoxicated. Initially I didn't think anything of his comment until I realized that even though this isn't Facebook, there are still real people with real names and real families that I have attacked on this forum.

I'm not talking about causal back-and-forth ribbing. I'm talking about the people that I personally attacked. I'm not talking about jokingly stating "GFY." I'm talking about the people I was purposely caustic to for no reason. I know now that even though we may still disagree on some topics, I didn't attack them because of what I thought of them. I attacked them because of what I thought of myself.

This list may not be all inclusive but this is the best list I could compile after a great deal of thought and reflection:

Kevin Gibson
JeffO
Take a Knee
Gunwizard
Curdog
RobJordan
bigsqueeze
djs

I would like to apologize to each and every one of the people I listed above. I don't expect all of you to forgive me and I don't expect all of you to accept my apology but I wanted to apologize regardless. Again, some of the things I wrote to all of you were more than just two people disagreeing. They were purposely hateful, and I apologize.

Last but not least I would like to apologize to Mr. Rick Bin. I've used his business to tear others down, when I should have been trying to build my life back up. I've blatantly disregarded his rules in an attempt to make others feel bad, so I could feel good.

I am sorry.

I will more than likely continue to post here if I feel I can help somebody with a question, but I will be posting far less than I have in the past. As anybody that has struggled with this illness knows, there are certain "triggers" I have to avoid right now and posting online is one of them.

If you feel I had slighted you in the past, please PM me. I don't want this post/thread to turn into a pissing match. I only want those that I listed to know how I feel.

Thank you and Happy Easter to all,



Travis


Trav, when I came back after being gone for 3 years I immediately noticed that a few guys I'd enjoyed interacting with in the past had acquired a real edge. You were one... I don't want to get too damn mushy here <g>, but I was honestly concerned that there was some dark [bleep] happening in your life and that the edge was the outward manifestation of that.

I've certainly had stretches in my life where I drank way too much and I suspect most of us here could make that statement. I think there's more understanding and empathy for your situation than you could imagine. Certainly is from me. On top of THAT, take it from someone a mile or two ahead of you on the life path-- the late 30's are an angsty, tough time... I didn't really realize how tough till I was past them. The toughEST time, in my experience. Get your head back on straight, grin and bear it, and I promise you, things are gonna get better.

Apology accepted without reservation or condition and when you do come back, don't feel like you gotta be on eggshells towards me; I have gained enough wisdom in my advancing years to know I need a good dope-slap from time to time and you are certainly good at that. smile

Now GFY! And good luck.


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from the infamous Safariman murdered father thread:
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As a Born Again Baptisted Christian I too believe your Dad is indeed in Heaven. Earth is temporary, Heaven is forever.
I am a retired alcohol/drug councelor. Addiction is a tough thing for most to overcome. Some addicts I am personally aware of (my wife included) do recover and remain clean. This is the hope yout Dad saw. He held to this hope. We all should. Hope is a good thing.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your's.


Do any of you people just stop drinking or snorting coke in excess, and just move on with your fugking life?





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humorless lot here...check you calendars

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After the car ran me over I had to spend a lot of time in a hospital bed. It cured me and I was drinking 12 triple Goldens a day some days. That's 6 bucks a beer roughly and 9 percent. Since then have had one or two but it didn't taste right. Seem to have lost the taste which is fine. I don't recommend this path though.

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I knew you were [bleep] up when I sold you that Annie.

A sex change operation will sober you up .

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Originally Posted by ingwe
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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Have one on me, man from Montana.

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Not cool.....

And don't try to justify it.



He's from Oregon Pat, sooooo.......


A low, cheap shot.


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May God bless and keep you this Easter.



Short, sweet, and my sentiments 100%. It takes a big man to admit weakness and do something about it.

Prayers sent your way Travis. Keep up the good work!


This. Travis isn't going to joke about damned near losing his family.



Yeah, that's my stance as well.

Good luck Travis.


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Well, I would send you a PM, but your Message folder is full... whistle

Good to see you back. Really good to know that you are getting a handle on something which can destroy you and those around you.

If there is anything I can do, please don't hesitate to call on me.

I believe my email is listed under my profile.

You have my prayers.

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