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Originally Posted by CCCC
Seems like I have always enjoyed April Fool jokes and pranks – making them and being the brunt as well – and figure that won't change. Sure hope not. Usually these are enjoyed, even congratulated, and soon forgotten. The one here leaves a peculiar odor.

Some good reminders within the experience:

there are many good-hearted folks around the Campfire who will rise and try to help others seen to be in need – even others whose usual behaviors are distasteful and not trustworthy much of the time;


Perhaps the saddest part is the fact that it was all made quite believable because everyone - including the chief culprit- knew that there was 'this problem', a problem that is quite widely propagated in society, and that so many people knew that it is probably an overdue issue....

As I started out many pages back, "it's all fun and games until it ain't".


Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Originally Posted by deflave
JFC dude. Lighten up.

It's just an April Fool's gag.




Travis


What? So I'm not even mad?

Holy cow that's great!

I feel way better now.


Now where is mojo, we need to talk about that review. I'm not happy about that.



Speaking of "lighten the Fug up", I can't think of a better reason for reinstating waterboarding. In fact, if the prez had any spine I'm sure he be on that right now....sending you boys, both of you and your evil accomplices, with John Kerry on a swift-boat to Guana Tawnymo.


I was all in until you said john f--cking kerry.


Punishment is not negotiable. Except in this case your spineless President has your back. And note the fact that I have heart....I left out Hanoi Jane. laugh


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LMAO!!!

Come on guys it's the inter web lighten up.








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Originally Posted by deflave
Thank you to all that have expressed support.





Travis

You'll be hitting the bottle within a week.....tops...GFY!


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
'Member them cute little sayings grandma used to say? One's like "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"? Well, there's a reason they think our generation is dumber than theirs...

Never been fooled by Travis's sheit, but been on the receiving end of his runnin' his mouth, playin the cute man. There's a line where cute and funny goes, where it ain't.

When I had problems with my marriage, he was right there to kick me when I was down. I don't forget sheit like that. Same with Steelhead. Steelhead promised "He's done", but time tells that tale, not one word and done.

And as far as forgiveness goes, I give it easily to people that I believe are sincere about wanting it. Steelhead has shown a lot of restraint, and has earned my respect for it. I don't think Scott has changed one thing about how he feels towards me, but made a decision to change the way he acts anyway. I can really respect a man for that. Travis isn't there. I was taught a man earns respect, and he hasn't.


Yep, he's a top rated turd and a loud mouth drunk. He will fail at life and lose everything. LMAO.


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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Travis,
Smooth seas, and a foillowing wind,
One hand for the ship ( your family) and one for yourself.

Luck

GTC

Great,,one drunk giving another drunk advice. LMAO


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Funny as schidt. You all go along and fall for the gonorrherpasyphilAIDS hoax next year. I know 'flave has that [bleep]!


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It's about like this:

"Do you puff peters?"

"Hell no!"

"NAZI!!!"


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Originally Posted by northern_dave
Well isn't this heart warming? A showering of support for sir drinks a lot.

I said I was done with the campfire and I should just stick to that plan. But this BS step 9 stuff, I guess I just can't leave it alone.

What kind of a step 9 is this? Selective step 9? Step 9 for hurt internet feelings?

What about actual damage, actual losses suffered by others?

Am I speaking too soon? Is the "check in the mail"?

I'll explain what I'm talking about, since I didn't see my name on the apology list.

Last fall Travis told me about a sweet old ford pickup truck he knew about in Havre. He sent me pictures. I fell in love with the old truck (As he figured I would) and he suggested that he could inquire about it for me. I thought that would be great. He kept me from dealing with the "owner" by explaining that it was an elderly man that had no phone and really didn't like talking to people very much. Travis was going to take care of the deal for me. I told Travis I would come out in the spring of 16 with a trailer and cash. But half way through Dec he said we better get it purchased because the owner had another guy wanting to buy it from him and it wasn't going to last til spring.

So, right before Christmas when I needed to be buying Christmas gifts etc, I send Travis $1500 Which I did gladly because it was a smoking hot deal for a 65 Ranger model with the factory bucket seats, original condition, just a dream come true for a restoration guy like myself.

Here's the truck.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

Nice huh? Yeah I loved it, instantly.

Here's the problem, it's total BS.

Time is passing, soon it's new years and I'm anxious for my new truck, there's new excuse after new excuse. He's busy at work, can't get to the DMV to get the "title straightened out". He said the truck was in the old man's brother's name and they had to bring in death certificate to transfer title. They were going to get it in Travis's name for the sake of speed, then I could just show like I bought it from Travis. Pretty soon it's Feb, then mid Feb, then Travis tells me the old man died.

Now this could take a while to fix the title issues. At this point what am I going to do? I feel bad the old man died, I'm just going to be respectful and how ever long it takes it takes.

I'm still excited about the truck and in the beginning of March I was emailing a friend, I had Travis's photos in an email on my work computer. I went to right click and copy over the image file but I'm clumsy with laptop finger pad. I accidentally hit "search google for" and a google window popped up with search results for the image file name.

Here's what my accidental google search turned up.

Click and scroll down.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1298881-65-66-f250-rangers-3.html

That is a link that leads to page 3 of a thread on another forum. The thread is about 65-66 ford ranger model trucks. The photos that Travis sent me were swiped off the internet from this thread. He played like he took these photos himself, he even gave me some chit line about "Better not pop the hood on a strangers truck, I could get shot! Lol!" They were not his photos, he never saw this truck, there was no old man and title mix up and no death. It was all BS.


He's got my $1500 and I've got nothing. No written agreement, no receipt, no nothing. Just an empty hole in my account where $1500 used to be.

I txt him as soon as I figured it out, no reply. I have tried calling, no answer, PM's? No reply.

Yeah, I've been pretty cranky about it. I was having fun here back when I was still on the hook with Dflave, back when I thought he was helping me get this sweet and totally fake truck.

I was Long Duck Dong for a bit there, laughing my butt off and having fun. Well, about the same time Rick killed long duck, this truck deal went all to hell and I've got to explain to my wife that my fake internet friend sold me a fake internet truck. I said F-it, done with internet friends, done with the campfire, it just a pile of political fights anyways, who needs that crap?

It's been a $hitty month.

You all go on ahead with your prayers and support for your hero that says he's so sorry and so sober.

Good luck with your sober savior. I'd laugh at the thought of it if I wasn't so pissed.

What a scum bag! He's another Safariman...Travis got owned...no give Dave his money back you thief.


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Originally Posted by okok
Originally Posted by northern_dave
Well isn't this heart warming? A showering of support for sir drinks a lot.

I said I was done with the campfire and I should just stick to that plan. But this BS step 9 stuff, I guess I just can't leave it alone.

What kind of a step 9 is this? Selective step 9? Step 9 for hurt internet feelings?

What about actual damage, actual losses suffered by others?

Am I speaking too soon? Is the "check in the mail"?

I'll explain what I'm talking about, since I didn't see my name on the apology list.

Last fall Travis told me about a sweet old ford pickup truck he knew about in Havre. He sent me pictures. I fell in love with the old truck (As he figured I would) and he suggested that he could inquire about it for me. I thought that would be great. He kept me from dealing with the "owner" by explaining that it was an elderly man that had no phone and really didn't like talking to people very much. Travis was going to take care of the deal for me. I told Travis I would come out in the spring of 16 with a trailer and cash. But half way through Dec he said we better get it purchased because the owner had another guy wanting to buy it from him and it wasn't going to last til spring.

So, right before Christmas when I needed to be buying Christmas gifts etc, I send Travis $1500 Which I did gladly because it was a smoking hot deal for a 65 Ranger model with the factory bucket seats, original condition, just a dream come true for a restoration guy like myself.

Here's the truck.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

Nice huh? Yeah I loved it, instantly.

Here's the problem, it's total BS.

Time is passing, soon it's new years and I'm anxious for my new truck, there's new excuse after new excuse. He's busy at work, can't get to the DMV to get the "title straightened out". He said the truck was in the old man's brother's name and they had to bring in death certificate to transfer title. They were going to get it in Travis's name for the sake of speed, then I could just show like I bought it from Travis. Pretty soon it's Feb, then mid Feb, then Travis tells me the old man died.

Now this could take a while to fix the title issues. At this point what am I going to do? I feel bad the old man died, I'm just going to be respectful and how ever long it takes it takes.

I'm still excited about the truck and in the beginning of March I was emailing a friend, I had Travis's photos in an email on my work computer. I went to right click and copy over the image file but I'm clumsy with laptop finger pad. I accidentally hit "search google for" and a google window popped up with search results for the image file name.

Here's what my accidental google search turned up.

Click and scroll down.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1298881-65-66-f250-rangers-3.html

That is a link that leads to page 3 of a thread on another forum. The thread is about 65-66 ford ranger model trucks. The photos that Travis sent me were swiped off the internet from this thread. He played like he took these photos himself, he even gave me some chit line about "Better not pop the hood on a strangers truck, I could get shot! Lol!" They were not his photos, he never saw this truck, there was no old man and title mix up and no death. It was all BS.


He's got my $1500 and I've got nothing. No written agreement, no receipt, no nothing. Just an empty hole in my account where $1500 used to be.

I txt him as soon as I figured it out, no reply. I have tried calling, no answer, PM's? No reply.

Yeah, I've been pretty cranky about it. I was having fun here back when I was still on the hook with Dflave, back when I thought he was helping me get this sweet and totally fake truck.

I was Long Duck Dong for a bit there, laughing my butt off and having fun. Well, about the same time Rick killed long duck, this truck deal went all to hell and I've got to explain to my wife that my fake internet friend sold me a fake internet truck. I said F-it, done with internet friends, done with the campfire, it just a pile of political fights anyways, who needs that crap?

It's been a $hitty month.

You all go on ahead with your prayers and support for your hero that says he's so sorry and so sober.

Good luck with your sober savior. I'd laugh at the thought of it if I wasn't so pissed.

What a scum bag! He's another Safariman...Travis got owned...no give Dave his money back you thief.


FYI you should probably read the whole thread...

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Originally Posted by northern_dave
Alright Travis, here's what's going to happen. I'm on my way to see you, when I get there we will figure out a way for you to make things square with me.

I have 3 options in mind.

You can put $1500 cash in my hand and I'll get back in my truck and go home.

You can hand me $1500 worth of firearms (no junk!). It's got to be something I can sell back home for a total of $1500 and I'll get back in my truck and go home.

Or, since you are so good at truck deals, you can buy my truck and I'll take Amtrak back home. I already checked and I can hop a train from Havre to Grand Forks ND for 94 bucks. That puts me real close to home.

I'll sell you this truck for what I have in it plus $1500.

[Linked Image]

It's a 69 F100 100% original survivor (with exception of the rims, they are not original), obviously it runs and drives very good or I wouldn't be taking off later today on a 720 mile trip with it. Your price on this actual real truck is $3200. With your sales skills you can likely dump it the same day for $3500, be done with me and buy yourself a couple of cases of O'doul's.

Those are the 3 options, I don't care which one you choose. We will figure it out though and I am coming there because it will be harder for you to procrastinate if I'm right there with my hand out.

So, either rake together $1500 cash, or start looking at your guns and figure out what adds up to $1500 on a fire sale. Or, go to your bank and ask for a vehicle loan for $3200.

Worse case, you fire sale the orange truck for $1600 and you owe your bank $1500 instead of owing me $1500.

Either way, we both currently have a problem that is soon going to be 100% your problem alone.

I want this behind me, frankly I don't care what you want but it's likely you would be better off with this resolved as well.

I'm leaving later today, staying with a friend in Williston area tonight. I am coming, and you aren't going to trick me into turning around with "Hey, I mailed your money." so don't bother txting or calling me with that crap.

See you soon, "friend".

Call the local sheriff to escort.


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Originally Posted by Jcubed
Originally Posted by okok
Originally Posted by northern_dave
Well isn't this heart warming? A showering of support for sir drinks a lot.

I said I was done with the campfire and I should just stick to that plan. But this BS step 9 stuff, I guess I just can't leave it alone.

What kind of a step 9 is this? Selective step 9? Step 9 for hurt internet feelings?

What about actual damage, actual losses suffered by others?

Am I speaking too soon? Is the "check in the mail"?

I'll explain what I'm talking about, since I didn't see my name on the apology list.

Last fall Travis told me about a sweet old ford pickup truck he knew about in Havre. He sent me pictures. I fell in love with the old truck (As he figured I would) and he suggested that he could inquire about it for me. I thought that would be great. He kept me from dealing with the "owner" by explaining that it was an elderly man that had no phone and really didn't like talking to people very much. Travis was going to take care of the deal for me. I told Travis I would come out in the spring of 16 with a trailer and cash. But half way through Dec he said we better get it purchased because the owner had another guy wanting to buy it from him and it wasn't going to last til spring.

So, right before Christmas when I needed to be buying Christmas gifts etc, I send Travis $1500 Which I did gladly because it was a smoking hot deal for a 65 Ranger model with the factory bucket seats, original condition, just a dream come true for a restoration guy like myself.

Here's the truck.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

Nice huh? Yeah I loved it, instantly.

Here's the problem, it's total BS.

Time is passing, soon it's new years and I'm anxious for my new truck, there's new excuse after new excuse. He's busy at work, can't get to the DMV to get the "title straightened out". He said the truck was in the old man's brother's name and they had to bring in death certificate to transfer title. They were going to get it in Travis's name for the sake of speed, then I could just show like I bought it from Travis. Pretty soon it's Feb, then mid Feb, then Travis tells me the old man died.

Now this could take a while to fix the title issues. At this point what am I going to do? I feel bad the old man died, I'm just going to be respectful and how ever long it takes it takes.

I'm still excited about the truck and in the beginning of March I was emailing a friend, I had Travis's photos in an email on my work computer. I went to right click and copy over the image file but I'm clumsy with laptop finger pad. I accidentally hit "search google for" and a google window popped up with search results for the image file name.

Here's what my accidental google search turned up.

Click and scroll down.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1298881-65-66-f250-rangers-3.html

That is a link that leads to page 3 of a thread on another forum. The thread is about 65-66 ford ranger model trucks. The photos that Travis sent me were swiped off the internet from this thread. He played like he took these photos himself, he even gave me some chit line about "Better not pop the hood on a strangers truck, I could get shot! Lol!" They were not his photos, he never saw this truck, there was no old man and title mix up and no death. It was all BS.


He's got my $1500 and I've got nothing. No written agreement, no receipt, no nothing. Just an empty hole in my account where $1500 used to be.

I txt him as soon as I figured it out, no reply. I have tried calling, no answer, PM's? No reply.

Yeah, I've been pretty cranky about it. I was having fun here back when I was still on the hook with Dflave, back when I thought he was helping me get this sweet and totally fake truck.

I was Long Duck Dong for a bit there, laughing my butt off and having fun. Well, about the same time Rick killed long duck, this truck deal went all to hell and I've got to explain to my wife that my fake internet friend sold me a fake internet truck. I said F-it, done with internet friends, done with the campfire, it just a pile of political fights anyways, who needs that crap?

It's been a $hitty month.

You all go on ahead with your prayers and support for your hero that says he's so sorry and so sober.

Good luck with your sober savior. I'd laugh at the thought of it if I wasn't so pissed.

What a scum bag! He's another Safariman...Travis got owned...no give Dave his money back you thief.


FYI you should probably read the whole thread...


Well stranger, months go by and now you decide to chime in? grin

You do realize "Nothing has changed".

You're up late. I have an excuse, I'm working.

Geno


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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Originally Posted by okok
Originally Posted by northern_dave
Alright Travis, here's what's going to happen. I'm on my way to see you, when I get there we will figure out a way for you to make things square with me.

I have 3 options in mind.

You can put $1500 cash in my hand and I'll get back in my truck and go home.

You can hand me $1500 worth of firearms (no junk!). It's got to be something I can sell back home for a total of $1500 and I'll get back in my truck and go home.

Or, since you are so good at truck deals, you can buy my truck and I'll take Amtrak back home. I already checked and I can hop a train from Havre to Grand Forks ND for 94 bucks. That puts me real close to home.

I'll sell you this truck for what I have in it plus $1500.

[Linked Image]

It's a 69 F100 100% original survivor (with exception of the rims, they are not original), obviously it runs and drives very good or I wouldn't be taking off later today on a 720 mile trip with it. Your price on this actual real truck is $3200. With your sales skills you can likely dump it the same day for $3500, be done with me and buy yourself a couple of cases of O'doul's.

Those are the 3 options, I don't care which one you choose. We will figure it out though and I am coming there because it will be harder for you to procrastinate if I'm right there with my hand out.

So, either rake together $1500 cash, or start looking at your guns and figure out what adds up to $1500 on a fire sale. Or, go to your bank and ask for a vehicle loan for $3200.

Worse case, you fire sale the orange truck for $1600 and you owe your bank $1500 instead of owing me $1500.

Either way, we both currently have a problem that is soon going to be 100% your problem alone.

I want this behind me, frankly I don't care what you want but it's likely you would be better off with this resolved as well.

I'm leaving later today, staying with a friend in Williston area tonight. I am coming, and you aren't going to trick me into turning around with "Hey, I mailed your money." so don't bother txting or calling me with that crap.

See you soon, "friend".

Call the local sheriff to escort.


Like I said, you should read the whole thread...but it looks like you are getting closer to the "truth."

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Originally Posted by deflave
Dave,

You don't need to come out here.

I can have your money by close of business.

Never thought you'd be such a drama queen over a small misunderstanding.




Travis

What a coward....afraid you'll get your ass kicked. what a yellow belly cok sucker.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Jcubed
Originally Posted by okok
Originally Posted by northern_dave
Well isn't this heart warming? A showering of support for sir drinks a lot.

I said I was done with the campfire and I should just stick to that plan. But this BS step 9 stuff, I guess I just can't leave it alone.

What kind of a step 9 is this? Selective step 9? Step 9 for hurt internet feelings?

What about actual damage, actual losses suffered by others?

Am I speaking too soon? Is the "check in the mail"?

I'll explain what I'm talking about, since I didn't see my name on the apology list.

Last fall Travis told me about a sweet old ford pickup truck he knew about in Havre. He sent me pictures. I fell in love with the old truck (As he figured I would) and he suggested that he could inquire about it for me. I thought that would be great. He kept me from dealing with the "owner" by explaining that it was an elderly man that had no phone and really didn't like talking to people very much. Travis was going to take care of the deal for me. I told Travis I would come out in the spring of 16 with a trailer and cash. But half way through Dec he said we better get it purchased because the owner had another guy wanting to buy it from him and it wasn't going to last til spring.

So, right before Christmas when I needed to be buying Christmas gifts etc, I send Travis $1500 Which I did gladly because it was a smoking hot deal for a 65 Ranger model with the factory bucket seats, original condition, just a dream come true for a restoration guy like myself.

Here's the truck.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

Nice huh? Yeah I loved it, instantly.

Here's the problem, it's total BS.

Time is passing, soon it's new years and I'm anxious for my new truck, there's new excuse after new excuse. He's busy at work, can't get to the DMV to get the "title straightened out". He said the truck was in the old man's brother's name and they had to bring in death certificate to transfer title. They were going to get it in Travis's name for the sake of speed, then I could just show like I bought it from Travis. Pretty soon it's Feb, then mid Feb, then Travis tells me the old man died.

Now this could take a while to fix the title issues. At this point what am I going to do? I feel bad the old man died, I'm just going to be respectful and how ever long it takes it takes.

I'm still excited about the truck and in the beginning of March I was emailing a friend, I had Travis's photos in an email on my work computer. I went to right click and copy over the image file but I'm clumsy with laptop finger pad. I accidentally hit "search google for" and a google window popped up with search results for the image file name.

Here's what my accidental google search turned up.

Click and scroll down.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1298881-65-66-f250-rangers-3.html

That is a link that leads to page 3 of a thread on another forum. The thread is about 65-66 ford ranger model trucks. The photos that Travis sent me were swiped off the internet from this thread. He played like he took these photos himself, he even gave me some chit line about "Better not pop the hood on a strangers truck, I could get shot! Lol!" They were not his photos, he never saw this truck, there was no old man and title mix up and no death. It was all BS.


He's got my $1500 and I've got nothing. No written agreement, no receipt, no nothing. Just an empty hole in my account where $1500 used to be.

I txt him as soon as I figured it out, no reply. I have tried calling, no answer, PM's? No reply.

Yeah, I've been pretty cranky about it. I was having fun here back when I was still on the hook with Dflave, back when I thought he was helping me get this sweet and totally fake truck.

I was Long Duck Dong for a bit there, laughing my butt off and having fun. Well, about the same time Rick killed long duck, this truck deal went all to hell and I've got to explain to my wife that my fake internet friend sold me a fake internet truck. I said F-it, done with internet friends, done with the campfire, it just a pile of political fights anyways, who needs that crap?

It's been a $hitty month.

You all go on ahead with your prayers and support for your hero that says he's so sorry and so sober.

Good luck with your sober savior. I'd laugh at the thought of it if I wasn't so pissed.

What a scum bag! He's another Safariman...Travis got owned...no give Dave his money back you thief.


FYI you should probably read the whole thread...


Well stranger, months go by and now you decide to chime in? grin

You do realize "Nothing has changed".

You're up late. I have an excuse, I'm working.

Geno


Yeah, I have been a lurker.

Just can't sleep tonight for whatever reason, so I have been reading. Struck out it seems on elk and 'lope in the AZ draw. Oh well...

Hope all is well with you, Geno, especially being at work and all!

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Originally Posted by okok
Originally Posted by deflave
Dave,

You don't need to come out here.

I can have your money by close of business.

Never thought you'd be such a drama queen over a small misunderstanding.




Travis

What a coward....afraid you'll get your ass kicked. what a yellow belly cok sucker.


Oh man, there really is no helping you! Good luck with your pitchforks and torches.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Thanks Dr. Zales.









FWIW, I shan't be posting anymore neither.


Just heard this one as they closed the bar down and shuffled us outside.





Hit a little too close to home and there was no holding back the tears. Friends thought I was gay for suddenly bursting into tears. That is until I told them why.

Hell they even teared up and they even know Flave.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Thanks Dr. Zales.







Whether the truth or an April Fools Day prank gone too far and simply taken too seriously by some, I honestly couldn't care less.

Regarding the video, though, the way profanity flows so openly, easily and loosely by a grown man while knowingly in the immediate presence of the small child is quite telling.
Very much so in my opinion.

As always, YMMV.

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Johnny Tyler gonzaga, you may go now. grin

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Originally Posted by gonzaga
Can someone please tell Mike Weiner that I've had him on ignore for months now so he can quit trying to offer me advise on my "Gullibility"....
Thanks for the heads up on that one Travis....
It was nice to catch up with via texts all week,
You were right for sure, classic thread.

Glad I got to sit in on this from the stage to backstage....

GFY now Travis....L8R bro....


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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by gonzaga
Can someone please tell Mike Weiner that I've had him on ignore for months now so he can quit trying to offer me advise on my "Gullibility"....


You can't call him "Mike Weiner."

It's MIKE WEINER!!


Shouldn't you be out packaging/mailing cookbooks or something.


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Originally Posted by Harry M
I was havin' none of this from day one....but then again I'm from MA....the smartest State in the Union......



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Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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