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Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: walt501] #11851755 02/24/17
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Yep, you just proved you don't know what you're talking about - agin.

Thanks for playing.



So go ahead, prove me wrong. Hurry up, I'll give you a chance to research it, before I prove who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't.


Cross-listed stocks, those listed on more than one international exchange, do so via ADRs in the US and their equivalent on international markets for currency exchange reasons. Those listed stocks meet all requirements and regulations for the listing markets.

If you had a clue, you'd know this. You don't, and it's obvious.



Nice play on words. Yes, they meet all requirements for LISTED stocks. ADR's are not the same as a listing and thus no information outside of what the company voluntarily discloses plus one annual report is required. That is not opening the books to U.S. regulators.

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Thanks for proving my point.



Ya stupid f'k, ADRs are how foreign based cross listed companies are listed on the NYSE, and their equivalent are how US (or other not-same-nation-based as the exchange) companies are listed on other international exchanges.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: 4ager] #11851764 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Yep, you just proved you don't know what you're talking about - agin.

Thanks for playing.



So go ahead, prove me wrong. Hurry up, I'll give you a chance to research it, before I prove who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't.


Cross-listed stocks, those listed on more than one international exchange, do so via ADRs in the US and their equivalent on international markets for currency exchange reasons. Those listed stocks meet all requirements and regulations for the listing markets.

If you had a clue, you'd know this. You don't, and it's obvious.



Nice play on words. Yes, they meet all requirements for LISTED stocks. ADR's are not the same as a listing and thus no information outside of what the company voluntarily discloses plus one annual report is required. That is not opening the books to U.S. regulators.

Click Here

Thanks for proving my point.



Ya stupid f'k, ADRs are how foreign based cross listed companies are listed on the NYSE, and their equivalent are how US (or other not-same-nation-based as the exchange) companies are listed on other international exchanges.


You keep saying that, but do you have any proof? You know, a link to an outside source to back up your claim?

Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: WayneShaw] #11851766 02/24/17
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https://www.sec.gov/answers/adrs.htm

ADRs are exchangeable for the stock they represent, and are offered by the Us banks that handle them for currency purposes.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by 4ager
https://www.sec.gov/answers/adrs.htm

ADRs are exchangeable for the stock they represent, and are offered by the Us banks that handle them for currency purposes.



Not arguing what ADR's are, just that they're not the same as a listing on our stock exchanges because they don't follow our regulatory rules, which I have already referenced.

So far, no one has proved me wrong on that point.

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Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: WayneShaw] #11851776 02/24/17
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While you are busy Googling stuff up, and finding out you're losing (hint) again, try "Global Depository Receipts".

Thanks for playing!


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: walt501] #11851779 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by walt501
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https://www.sec.gov/answers/adrs.htm

ADRs are exchangeable for the stock they represent, and are offered by the Us banks that handle them for currency purposes.



Not arguing what ADR's are, just that they're not the same as a listing on our stock exchanges because they don't follow our regulatory rules, which I have already referenced.

So far, no one has proved me that point.


If you can READ, the link provided states that those stocks listed as ADRs are fully subject to SEC regulation. That would mean our regulatory rules, in case your utter stupidity cannot connect the dots. Toyota is specifically mentioned.

https://www.fool.com/amp/investing/...you-need-to-know-before-buying-fore.aspx

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: 4ager] #11851783 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by 4ager
While you are busy Googling stuff up, and finding out you're losing (hint) again, try "Global Depository Receipts".

Thanks for playing!


I thought we were talking about Toyota ADR's listed on the NYSE and how they don't offer investors the same level of regulatory oversight as actual common stock listed on out exchanges.

So far, no one has refuted what I have said here but by all means, keep trying.

Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: walt501] #11851789 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by walt501
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While you are busy Googling stuff up, and finding out you're losing (hint) again, try "Global Depository Receipts".

Thanks for playing!


I thought we were talking about Toyota ADR's listed on the NYSE and how they don't offer investors the same level of regulatory oversight as actual common stock listed on out exchanges.

So far, no one has refuted what I have said here but by all means, keep trying.


Just stuffed that line of horsechit back up your ass. Enjoy!

https://www.investingdaily.com/19317/adrs-make-global-investing-easy/

Last edited by 4ager; 02/24/17.

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
While you are busy Googling stuff up, and finding out you're losing (hint) again, try "Global Depository Receipts".

Thanks for playing!


I thought we were talking about Toyota ADR's listed on the NYSE and how they don't offer investors the same level of regulatory oversight as actual common stock listed on out exchanges.

So far, no one has refuted what I have said here but by all means, keep trying.


Just stuffed that line of horsechit back up your ass. Enjoy!


Let me translate that for you. You lost the argument.

Next!

Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: walt501] #11851799 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
While you are busy Googling stuff up, and finding out you're losing (hint) again, try "Global Depository Receipts".

Thanks for playing!


I thought we were talking about Toyota ADR's listed on the NYSE and how they don't offer investors the same level of regulatory oversight as actual common stock listed on out exchanges.

So far, no one has refuted what I have said here but by all means, keep trying.


Just stuffed that line of horsechit back up your ass. Enjoy!


Let me translate that for you. You lost the argument.

Next!


This means you can neither read nor comprehend. Gotcha; you're an idiot.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: 4ager] #11851811 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
While you are busy Googling stuff up, and finding out you're losing (hint) again, try "Global Depository Receipts".

Thanks for playing!


I thought we were talking about Toyota ADR's listed on the NYSE and how they don't offer investors the same level of regulatory oversight as actual common stock listed on out exchanges.

So far, no one has refuted what I have said here but by all means, keep trying.


Just stuffed that line of horsechit back up your ass. Enjoy!


Let me translate that for you. You lost the argument.

Next!


This means you can neither read nor comprehend. Gotcha; you're an idiot.


You keep giving me reference regarding what constitutes an ADR. No argument on what they are....and are not. They are not common shares listed on our exchanges and subjected to our regulations, which I have already shown.

Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: 4ager] #11851816 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
While you are busy Googling stuff up, and finding out you're losing (hint) again, try "Global Depository Receipts".

Thanks for playing!


I thought we were talking about Toyota ADR's listed on the NYSE and how they don't offer investors the same level of regulatory oversight as actual common stock listed on out exchanges.

So far, no one has refuted what I have said here but by all means, keep trying.


Just stuffed that line of horsechit back up your ass. Enjoy!


Let me translate that for you. You lost the argument.

Next!


This means you can neither read nor comprehend. Gotcha; you're an idiot.


Devolving into name calling usually means an argument is weak or non-existent and reflects poorly on those who use such tactics.

Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: WayneShaw] #11851823 02/24/17
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When I've proven that what ADRs are and why they exist, that ADRs are fully exchangeable for stock of the traded companies, that GDRs are how US and other stocks are listed on international exchanges, and that ADR stocks traded on the NYSE are subeject to FINRA and/or SEC regulations, you have no position left. You've been proven wrong, and you just refuse to actually read or comprehend the facts posted.

That doesn't make calling you an idiot "name-calling"; it makes it accurate.

You lose (hint), again.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: 4ager] #11851831 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by 4ager
When I've proven that ADRs are fully exchangeable for stock of the traded companies, that GDRs are how US and other stocks are listed on international exchanges, and that ADR stocks traded on the NYSE are subeject to FINRA and/or SEC regulations, you have no position left. You've been proven wrong, and you just refuse to actually read or comprehend the facts posted.

That doesn't make calling you an idiot "name-calling"; it makes it accurate.

You lose (hint), again.


Let me be perfectly clear here - you have NOT show where ADR's are subject to US regulation. I have specifically shown that they are not subject to US regulation with a link to the Securities and Exchange Commission web site.

Here's the link, once again, showing the lack of regulatory oversight of ADR's.

Click Here

Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: walt501] #11851848 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
When I've proven that ADRs are fully exchangeable for stock of the traded companies, that GDRs are how US and other stocks are listed on international exchanges, and that ADR stocks traded on the NYSE are subeject to FINRA and/or SEC regulations, you have no position left. You've been proven wrong, and you just refuse to actually read or comprehend the facts posted.

That doesn't make calling you an idiot "name-calling"; it makes it accurate.

You lose (hint), again.


Let me be perfectly clear here - you have NOT show where ADR's are subject to US regulation. I have specifically shown that they are not subject to US regulation with a link to the Securities and Exchange Commission web site.

Here's the link, once again, showing the lack of regulatory oversight of ADR's.

Click Here


Paragraph 6, last sentence. You just proved what you claimed false.

Want more?

Here - https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/internatl/foreign-private-issuers-overview.shtml

Have fun.

You lose (hint), again.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by T LEE
Dodge!

If you can't Dodge it, Ram it! smile


What grade are you in?


”Every citizen a soldier.” Thomas Jefferson
Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: 4ager] #11851868 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Originally Posted by 4ager
When I've proven that ADRs are fully exchangeable for stock of the traded companies, that GDRs are how US and other stocks are listed on international exchanges, and that ADR stocks traded on the NYSE are subeject to FINRA and/or SEC regulations, you have no position left. You've been proven wrong, and you just refuse to actually read or comprehend the facts posted.

That doesn't make calling you an idiot "name-calling"; it makes it accurate.

You lose (hint), again.


Let me be perfectly clear here - you have NOT show where ADR's are subject to US regulation. I have specifically shown that they are not subject to US regulation with a link to the Securities and Exchange Commission web site.

Here's the link, once again, showing the lack of regulatory oversight of ADR's.

Click Here


Paragraph 6, last sentence. You just proved what you claimed false.

Want more?

Here - https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/internatl/foreign-private-issuers-overview.shtml

Have fun.

You lose (hint), again.


Not quite sure what you're referring to, but the article references raising capital in the US. ADR's don't always raise capital in the US, they're simply a convenient means of owning foreign shares. Please be more specific.

Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: walt501] #11851873 02/24/17
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Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by 4ager
When I've proven that ADRs are fully exchangeable for stock of the traded companies, that GDRs are how US and other stocks are listed on international exchanges, and that ADR stocks traded on the NYSE are subeject to FINRA and/or SEC regulations, you have no position left. You've been proven wrong, and you just refuse to actually read or comprehend the facts posted.

That doesn't make calling you an idiot "name-calling"; it makes it accurate.

You lose (hint), again.


Let me be perfectly clear here - you have NOT show where ADR's are subject to US regulation. I have specifically shown that they are not subject to US regulation with a link to the Securities and Exchange Commission web site.

Here's the link, once again, showing the lack of regulatory oversight of ADR's.

Click Here


Paragraph 6, last sentence. You just proved what you claimed false.

Want more?

Here - https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/internatl/foreign-private-issuers-overview.shtml

Have fun.

You lose (hint), again.


Not quite sure what you're referring to, but the article references raising capital in the US. ADR's don't always raise capital in the US, they're simply a convenient means of owning foreign shares. Please be more specific.


Paragraph 6; last sentence. Reporting requirements. Sponsored, listed, ADRs are subject to reporting requirements (I.e., regulations) to the SEC/FINRA.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Dodge!

If you can't Dodge it, Ram it! smile


Is this another fat chick joke?




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Re: If, Just If, You Were Looking At a New Truck [Re: WayneShaw] #11851880 02/24/17
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Walt, you can just go ahead and say "oh, I stand corrected" and admit you were wrong at any point now.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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