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Just our corrupt nature playing both sides to suit our whims. This is just another manifestation of relative truth vs. actual, factual, real truth.

What's true for me, might not be true for you. What's true in this situation, might not be true if the situation is different. It's nonsense, hypocrisy, motive-driven relativity.

She was not abusing drugs, and whom are these "decent" people? People you define as decent could be alcoholics, wife beaters, tax-evaders, whatever, as long as they're not using drugs, right?

You're correct, Drug abuse has no place in a society.

However drug use does. The unfortunate thing is, it's simply impossible for you to make a distinction between the two.

Heck, my dad died a slow painful death he could have used some relief. So use the compounds in MJ that help and leave out the ones that get you high.

I personally, have little interest in the "mind altering" THC compound in MJ. I'm interested in the dozens or hundreds of CBD's and other compounds that Cannabis contains.


Can any of the other compounds be useful in practical medicine? Who knows at this point? The compounds in MJ that might help can't be studied because MJ is a schedule I. That's why it's imperative that MJ be reclassified and control given back to the states, so proper research can be done. Until that happens, the drugs we're stuck with is only what Big Pharma will allow, despite the side effects.

We use drugs that come from nature all the time. Succinylcholine was/is used during surgery anesthesia, it's derived from Curare. The painkiller Prialt is derived from Cone snail venom. Curare and cone snails aren't something that the average person can grow in their backyard. However, Cannabis is. If word gets out that people can cure some of their own ills using something that they grow, Big Pharma stands to go bankrupt. Big Pharma isn't crazy about rescheduling because they will lose Tons of Money, therefore they must instill fear into the public about "the devil's weed". IMO, that's the main reason why MJ has been a schedule I all these years, Big Parma doesn't pay its lobbyist big bucks for nothing, follow the money trail..

Why should drug abusers have any rights while decent people are told to stand down and put up with the increased crime and degradation to society it brings?

Drug abuse has no place in society.

Maybe I'm wrong and all these grungy scumbags want to save the world, but I doubt it. I think they want to get the world high.

Now I'm not talking about Junkies or meth heads, focusing on MJ users. If those users had to follow alcohol laws and tobacco laws that most of us in the country have to follow, ie, no smoking while driving, field sobriety tests, no public intox, no use in public places, no use around children, no use in restaurants, etc, pretty much use only at home, wouldn't that fix a lot of the things you see as a problem?

It sounds like to me you have an law enforcement issue, not necessarily a drug issue. If potheads had to live up to the same levels of scrutiny as alcohol drinkers and tobacco users, and were dealt with accordingly, how much would that clean up the problems you're seeing?

I'm gonna have to blame this thread for what happened to me last night...I spent most of the day yesterday cleaning the swamp cooler, replacing the pads and repairing a crack in the feed line...as well as vacuuming and cleaning the old Bronco, making a fresh batch of Lipton sweet tea, splitting and bagging 9 grocery bags full of kindling and some other light chores...right before sundown I thought...WTF...I went back down to the garage, sat down behind the desk & fished out the old pipe and a big bud that's been hiding in an old pill bottle for the past ten months...hmmm...I pinch off a little and commence the festivities...man...it's been a while...music...I need to listen to some good old rock and roll....click on the stereo and turn the volume up a little....first song up was The Doors "L.A. Woman" ..oh man...it's been too long...second one was Seger doing "Hollywood Nights" followed by AC/DC "Thunderstruck"...time to reload the bowl....the local radio station is killing it!!! Right about now, the sun's going behind the hill...temperature is around 70 and the wind's calm....schitt...I'm hungry...fire up the gas grill and throw some chicken thighs on...get that going and figure it's about a perfect night for a fire in the fire pit, because it's starting to cool off pretty quick....40 minutes later, I'm sitting next to the fire, eating bbq chicken and macaroni salad...listening to good music and absolutely savoring every bite of food, every drink of tea and every tune coming from the radio...life is good....well, maybe it's not GOOD, but it could always be worse...an hour or so later, I turn off the radio, put the lid on the fire pit and come inside...turn on the TV and tune in to the discovery channels "fast and loud"...cool...I go to the fridge to refill my tea glass and that's when I remember (see) the strawberry cheesecake I made yesterday...SCORE!!!

About half way through "Diesel Brothers" I'm getting sleepy....went to bed and slept like a friggin baby for a good 9 hrs....I'm feeling a little guilty this morning though...even though I feel absolutely wonderful (no hangover), well rested, totally on top of my game, I now know my actions are causing grief to some of my fellow campfire friends...I had no idea I was offending any "DECENT" people or "DEGRADING" society...

Maybe I'm wrong and all these grungy scumbags want to save the world, but I doubt it. I think they want to get the world high.

No offense, you may be a great guy, but there was never any doubt by your position you were a doper.

So if I smoke a little weed once or twice a year, I'm a "doper"??? I guess I'm also an alcoholic because I also drink a couple times a year??? Funny schitt...

Unless you fit into his tiny little preconceived morality box, you're worthless.

Nope. But you don't see what I see. Almost 3000 pot grows in Josephine County where I live, work, and raise kids. Dopers are everywhere.

Kinda funny knowing he's being run out of town by "dopers", they must be a powerful bunch of bad-asses..

I choose to not be around it. So sue me. Of course fellow dopers don't care. Given the chance they'd probably eat their own vomit to get a buzz.

If you just had even one hint of a clue, you'd know that not everybody who smokes weed is a grungy scumbag who wants to save the world...regardless of what your uninformed/misinformed/preconceived OPINION is....you obviously don't have any credible experience on the subject or you'd know better.

If you just had even one hint of a clue, you'd know that not everybody who smokes weed is a grungy scumbag who wants to save the world...

So if I smoke a little weed once or twice a year, I'm a "doper"???

Yes.