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As a FFL dealer (actually a manufacturer) I registered on gunbroker.com to ship and receive firearms. I don't ship many firearms because an unlicensed person may ship directly to a dealer. I accept firearms from unlicensed persons and appreciate a copy of their drivers license but don't require it. I do need their address for my log book. Copies of FFL goes into a file separate from the 4473.

In my area I have the best luck with USPS but we are a small town and the people at the PO know what I am shipping. Don't make any reference to firearms on the package or in the names of the shipper or receiver. The less information you reveal to the shipper the better

The FFL has to confirm the serial number if he enters it in his book. It sort of defeats the whole purpose of the FFL oversight if someone ships something supposedly entered on his books that he never saw. And please understand, I do not think that such laws make sense in the grand scheme of things,

And no one has to confirm non-FFL to FFL except the receiving FFL.

Pretty hard to link to written letters, but it has been posted here a number of times as these threads devolve.

Verification is supposed to be through the website for non-FFLs.

Not even a little bit worked up...

For someone that's not even a little bit worked up, you sure seem to take issue with a good many people.

All I can say is, "Thank GOD we have you here to enlighten us!" DAMN! What would we do without you?

Precisely my point.

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Give me a link that shows an FFL should send a copy of the license to a non-licensed person. Double dog dare ya.

Again, you can verify WITHOUT the FFL.

Not sure what 'technically true' means. Something is either true or it ain't. I've NEVER been asked and have never shown a copy of the FFL when shipping.

Gunbroker FFL search http://www.gunbroker.com/ffl/searchforffl.aspx

I don't need the copy per se, but you you cannot verify without the numbers (first 3, last 5). Rather than ask the FFL for that info, I have always just asked for a copy or scan, and have never had an FFL refuse to supply it.

Either way, the copy alone is worthless, unless you verify it on FFL EZ Check.

Section 27 CFR 478.94 requires licensees to verify
the identity and licensed status prior to transferring
a firearm to a person who states they are licensed to
receive it. “Verification shall be established by the
transferee furnishing to the transferor a certified copy
of the transferee’s license and by such other means
as the transferor deems necessary...” This section
does not apply to transfers between a licensee and an
unlicensed person.





NONLICENSEE STATE-TO-STATE TRANSFER
ATF has received questions regarding how a
nonlicensee may handle the transfer of a firearm
to another nonlicensee residing in a different
State. Regulation 27 CFR 478.30 does not allow a
nonlicensee to transfer, sell, or deliver a firearm to
another nonlicensee who does not reside in the same
State.
However, per 27 CFR 478.147, a nonlicensee
may directly ship a firearm to a licensed importer,
licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer for any
lawful purpose. As such, the nonlicensee may arrange
to ship the firearm directly to a licensed dealer in the
State where the other nonlicensee lives. The receiving
licensee is required to enter the name and address of
the nonlicensee from whom the firearm was received.
A copy of the nonlicensee’s driver’s license may
be used to verify this information, but there is no
regulatory requirement that it be provided by the
nonlicensee. Afterwards, the nonlicensee who is to
receive the firearm would be required to complete
ATF Form 4473 and be subject to a background
check. Also, any corresponding State requirements
would apply, such as a waiting period.

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Welcome to my ignore list... damn few get there with JeffO, but you should fit right in. No need to prove you are inbred schit in a simple civil discussion.

Blow me.........

And miss out on a quarter of the Campfire?