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That was great, can I borrow that? Certainly
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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"they and Trump had "agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that's acceptable to both sides."
When did the Democrats ever hint they wanted a wall ?, Mr.T agreed to their wishes,,,and he gets what he wants, the Republicans aren't giving him any help.
With the 10's of billions needed for Texas and Florida relief, no wall is getting funded thru congress anyway...give it up, no wall. You must have missed the memo where he said "MEXICO" will pay for the wall....
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Tax reform and Trumps reaction to Harvey and Irma is going to mean absolutely nothing to Trump's base if he doesn't put some very hard brakes on illegal immigration.
Nobody who voted for Trump voted for compromise on that issue,...and that *was* the issue that got Trump elected.
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Tax reform and Trumps reaction to Harvey and Irma is going to mean absolutely nothing to Trump's base if he doesn't put some very hard brakes on illegal immigration.
Nobody who voted for Trump voted for compromise on that issue,...and that *was* the issue that got Trump elected. My reason was the United States Supreme Court! ...an still is.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Trump is betraying his base. I certainly want to deport every single illegal immigrant in this country.
‘TO LEARN WHO RULES OVER YOU, SIMPLY FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE’
Conspiracy theorists are the ones who see it all coming…
You are the carbon they want to eliminate !
I’m Uber Deplorable Ultra MAGA !
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I'd give up daca for tax reform. The republicans will be the ones standing in the way of the wall. If the Dems had both houses and the presidency, do you suppose there would be any compromising going on? Not a fugking chance.
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom."
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Well, there are no conservatives in the Democrat party anymore, but there are liberals in the Republican party. Vote them out in the primaries. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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seems the obvious play is to trade DACA for the wall and do an end around Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell at the same time.
No. As he was leaving for Florida he confirmed that Ryan and McConnell are on board with amnesty. But we already knew that. This is why Bannon left. He knew what was headed our way.
I retired from the Johns Manville asbestos pop tart factory in ‘59, and still never made the connection.—-Slumlord
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Most here say the Dream Act was "unpopular with most Americans", actually, nationwide it prob'ly runs 50/50, about like the election. Start parading out those who have been here since they were three and the issue could go on forever.
President Trump just defanged the MSM and the Libs on this issue while embarrassing the do- nothing Republicans in Congress. At the same time he has put the Dream Act back before Congress where it belongs, with a deadline.
Already President Trump has had an impact on illegal immigration just by being elected, if he can translate this latest give and take into taking effective action on controlling our Border that would be brilliant. Better yet if his actions light a fire under the GOP.
Time will tell.
JMHO,
Birdwatcher Polls indicate that only 15% of voters support sending dreamers home. 58% support citizenship, 18% support legal status. Politically speaking that is a consensus. DACA will be the law of the land.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
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seems the obvious play is to trade DACA for the wall and do an end around Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell at the same time.
No. As he was leaving for Florida he confirmed that Ryan and McConnell are on board with amnesty. But we already knew that. This is why Bannon left. He knew what was headed our way. Amnesty for whom?
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Tax reform and Trumps reaction to Harvey and Irma is going to mean absolutely nothing to Trump's base if he doesn't put some very hard brakes on illegal immigration.
Nobody who voted for Trump voted for compromise on that issue,...and that *was* the issue that got Trump elected. So, you still all in for this guy?
I retired from the Johns Manville asbestos pop tart factory in ‘59, and still never made the connection.—-Slumlord
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seems the obvious play is to trade DACA for the wall and do an end around Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell at the same time.
No. As he was leaving for Florida he confirmed that Ryan and McConnell are on board with amnesty. But we already knew that. This is why Bannon left. He knew what was headed our way. Amnesty for whom? The Dreamers, and not long afterwards it will be their parents, cousins, in-laws, etc.
I retired from the Johns Manville asbestos pop tart factory in ‘59, and still never made the connection.—-Slumlord
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Tax reform and Trumps reaction to Harvey and Irma is going to mean absolutely nothing to Trump's base if he doesn't put some very hard brakes on illegal immigration.
Nobody who voted for Trump voted for compromise on that issue,...and that *was* the issue that got Trump elected. My reason was the United States Supreme Court! ...an still is. Seems that a whole bunch of people are forgetting that we were facing this country's biggest possible nightmare only 12 months ago - the real possibility that HRC would be POTUS. As Darth Vader told Luke Skywalker "Search your feelings, you know it to be true". Talk about the Dark Side taking over! The love fest the MSM had planned for us would have been nauseating to the point of being debilitating. Any conservative that was not imprisoned by now would be on a suicide watch. OTOH, Europe and Hollywood would cheers us. 
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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Most here say the Dream Act was "unpopular with most Americans", actually, nationwide it prob'ly runs 50/50, about like the election. Start parading out those who have been here since they were three and the issue could go on forever.
President Trump just defanged the MSM and the Libs on this issue while embarrassing the do- nothing Republicans in Congress. At the same time he has put the Dream Act back before Congress where it belongs, with a deadline.
Already President Trump has had an impact on illegal immigration just by being elected, if he can translate this latest give and take into taking effective action on controlling our Border that would be brilliant. Better yet if his actions light a fire under the GOP.
Time will tell.
JMHO,
Birdwatcher Polls indicate that only 15% of voters support sending dreamers home. 58% support citizenship, 18% support legal status. Politically speaking that is a consensus. DACA will be the law of the land. 100% of idiots(liberals) cite poles and then claim consensus
I retired from the Johns Manville asbestos pop tart factory in ‘59, and still never made the connection.—-Slumlord
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I smell a big political maneuver none of us can yet see. I'm not worried until Trump actually SIGNS anything. Until then, it's all posturing, virtue signaling and political maneuvering. THIS!
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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seems the obvious play is to trade DACA for the wall and do an end around Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell at the same time.
No. As he was leaving for Florida he confirmed that Ryan and McConnell are on board with amnesty. But we already knew that. This is why Bannon left. He knew what was headed our way. Amnesty for whom? The Dreamers, and not long afterwards it will be their parents, cousins, in-laws, etc.And you know this how? You are one paranoid delusional sumbitch.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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NO WALL, NO SECOND TERM FOR TRUMP.
He's done in 4 years.
This.
When its time to fight, you fight like you are the third monkey on the ramp to get on Noah's Arc... and brother, it is starting to rain!
The chair is against the wall.
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Tax reform and Trumps reaction to Harvey and Irma is going to mean absolutely nothing to Trump's base if he doesn't put some very hard brakes on illegal immigration.
Nobody who voted for Trump voted for compromise on that issue,...and that *was* the issue that got Trump elected. So, you still all in for this guy? I'm all in for Nationalism,...as is the vast majority of people who voted for Trump.
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Polls indicate that only 15% of voters support sending dreamers home. 58% support citizenship, 18% support legal status.
Politically speaking that is a consensus. DACA will be the law of the land. If there's anything true in life, it's that a lot of people are wrong, often. That's why we don't have a pure Democracy in this country.
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom."
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Seems that a whole bunch of people are forgetting that we were facing this country's biggest possible nightmare only 12 months ago - the real possibility that HRC would be POTUS. As Darth Vader told Luke Skywalker "Search your feelings, you know it to be true". Talk about the Dark Side taking over! The love fest the MSM had planned for us would have been nauseating to the point of being debilitating. Any conservative that was not imprisoned by now would be on a suicide watch. OTOH, Europe and Hollywood would cheers us. True, but ultimately if we don't put a stop to the ethic cleansing process against whites in the West, what's the point? We've already reached the tipping point.
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