Trump shouldn't even seek legislation or funding for the wall. Just order the Army Corps of Engineers to build it, and fund it as they do the periodic missile attacks on terrorists. It is, after all, a matter of national security to secure a nation's borders. A Commander in Chief can order the wall the way he can order the Seventh Fleet to scramble to the Middle East to defend some priority over there.
Trump likes having his ego stroked and Dems are doing that for him so he voted with them ignoring that his is now the very policy for which he lambasted Jeb.
I thought having a non-politician in this office would be a huge positive but Trump is even less consistent on his promises than politicians.
Still better than Hillary over all but on this particular issue what's the difference?
And we can't totally blame congressional Reps; Trump is not leading in any meaningful or substantive way.
Besides, don't we hate Congressional Republicans for working with Dems which is what Trump is doing while many here defend him? Seems like a double standard particularly given the fact that Trump is doing a full 180 degree shift on a core issue (illegals) of his campaign.
"The Army Corps of Engineers provides public engineering services in peace and war to strengthen national security, energize the economy, and reduce risks from disasters."
Justified under both national security and reducing the risk of demographic disaster, not to mention energizing our economy.
Except it's not just the Dreamers , it's their whole family, including the parents who brought them here and their brothers/sisters/grandparents/etc. once they get citizenship they can bring hordes more into the country. 800,000!dreamers is really 5 or 6 million immigrants and many far from desirable assets to our country. It is also rewarding law breaking and completion for jobs.
What don't you understand about "comprehensive" immigration reform??? We know the system is broken....Trump wants to fix it....and for you people that are whining about Trump making a deal with Pelosi/Schumer about DACA and the wall, are you really gonna believe something coming from them??? The same two who have called him a "white supremacist," "fascist", "Putins puppet" "mentally unfit"??? Really??? Why would Trump rescind DACA last week and all of a sudden do a 180 the next??? Think about it...he didn't "Make A DEAL".....as much as the MSM wants you to think he did, he DIDN'T...
Are they here legally? If not, what penalties apply?
If your car got stolen and parked illegally, should you have to pay the fine? I mean it was your car and it was illegally parked. Or would you want people to understand through no fault of your own your car was where it was illegally?
What don't you understand about "comprehensive" immigration reform??? We know the system is broken....Trump wants to fix it....and for you people that are whining about Trump making a deal with Pelosi/Schumer about DACA and the wall, are you really gonna believe something coming from them??? The same two who have called him a "white supremacist," "fascist", "Putins puppet" "mentally unfit"??? Really??? Why would Trump rescind DACA last week and all of a sudden do a 180 the next??? Think about it...he didn't "Make A DEAL".....as much as the MSM wants you to think he did, he DIDN'T...
Trump didn't rescind DACA last week. He extended it for 6 months, told Congress to fix it by passing amnesty or he would revisit extending it again.
Unless you're a believer in Trump's ability to play 3D chess.
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Trump likes having his ego stroked and Dems are doing that for him so he voted with them ignoring that his is now the very policy for which he lambasted Jeb.
I thought having a non-politician in this office would be a huge positive but Trump is even less consistent on his promises than politicians.
Still better than Hillary over all but on this particular issue what's the difference?
And we can't totally blame congressional Reps; Trump is not leading in any meaningful or substantive way.
Besides, don't we hate Congressional Republicans for working with Dems which is what Trump is doing while many here defend him? Seems like a double standard particularly given the fact that Trump is doing a full 180 degree shift on a core issue (illegals) of his campaign.
You're buying what the MSM and even what the talking heads on Fox are trying to sell??? I don't....when I see legislation signed by Trump himself, I'll believe it...he isn't caving....
Trump is "doing what's easy and caving" as you say. It started with the debt ceiling issue last week and now this. He's taking the course of least resistance.
Try listening to what the president says instead of what the talking heads on TV say.....you'll be better informed and look a little less ignorant.... Raising the debt limit HAD to be done...not raising it was not an option...all a government shutdown accomplishes is a paid vacation for "non essential" personnel followed by massive overtime paid, to catch up on the workload that has backed up....remember, he's still operating on the previous administrations budget and tax codes/ regulations that are throttling the economy.... it may take his entire first four years to get schitt HALFWAY straightened out....
Actually maybe you should read Trumps own words in the form of tweets this morning. He questions why anyone would want to deport the wonderful, accomplished "dreamers".
Who does want to deport them? These dreamers are contributors. They can't be felons, they can't have more than 3 misdemeanors and they have to have accomplished or be working on educational attainment. They are here to no fault of their own. There really is no downside to making their presence here legal. I am all for better border security, a wall in places and only allowing the best to immigrate. This is a country steeped in humanitarian traditions. Legislatively making their presence here legal (without giving them a better path to citizenship than folks who properly immigrated) is a win across the board. Obama and a Democratic congress couldn't do it. Nor could Obama with successive congresses. If a Democrat can't deliver and a Republican president and a Republican congress can, maybe this will swing some of the Hispanic vote. Conservative need some of the Hispanic vote.
Except it's not just the Dreamers , it's their whole family, including the parents who brought them here and their brothers/sisters/grandparents/etc. once they get citizenship they can bring hordes more into the country. 800,000!dreamers is really 5 or 6 million immigrants and many far from desirable assets to our country. It is also rewarding law breaking and completion for jobs.
It is not necessarily their whole family. It depends upon the status they allowed to remain under.
Every presidency requires 8 years to cause real change.
And nobody is going to abandon Trump. The only thing that could cause that are total reversal on things like the 2nd.
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I must have misunderstood those Trump supporters calling into Laura Ingraham this morning.
Those "supporters" were the Cruz bots and people who simply voted against Clinton, waiting for the first opportunity to bash Trump based on what the MSM says.
Here's the question that you need to ask. Are my GOP Congressmen doing their jobs? If so, that's all you can ask for. That's all you have influence over. My Rep and Senators are basically on board wit the Trump agenda. Why should I be pissed at them and never vote for them just because Rand Paul, Lindsey Graham or John McCain is cause problems? If your GOP people aren't on board, then work to get them out in the Primaries.
This is how you affect change. You don't get [bleep] done by throwing up your hands and accepting defeat. The Dems don't play that way and neither should we. Enjoy the fact that HRC is NOT your President. Enjoy that for the rest of your life. Enjoy that every time Judge Gorsich is the deciding vote in the Supreme Court. If you think about what HRC could have done to us with control of the House and Senate you'll see things aren't so bad.
Well someone on here understands how this all works and isn't a defeatist. well said, hat.
Every presidency requires 8 years to cause real change.
And nobody is going to abandon Trump. The only thing that could cause that are total reversal on things like the 2nd.
Dave
I must have misunderstood those Trump supporters calling into Laura Ingraham this morning.
Those "supporters" were the Cruz bots and people who simply voted against Clinton, waiting for the first opportunity to bash Trump based on what the MSM says.
Ya, you were listening.
Must hurt pretty bad when you've swallowed the hook so deep.
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There really is no downside to making their presence here legal.
They'll vote Democrat. That's a downside.
Yep, almost every last one of them. Why does anyone here think the Dems want to keep them? Because they care??? LOL.
These immigrant's values, culture, work ethic, religious beliefs and ideals are much more closely aligned with Republican philosophy than Democratic. I work with a lot of Vietnamese Americans. They are almost all vote Republican. I don't think it will take much at all to turn the tide in the way the dreamers vote. After all, what party will be responsible for helping them achieve their dreams? The Democrats couldn't do it. If the Republicans can...
If Democrats want them to stay, they vote Democrat. It's pretty much that simple.
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Trump likes having his ego stroked and Dems are doing that for him so he voted with them ignoring that his is now the very policy for which he lambasted Jeb.
I thought having a non-politician in this office would be a huge positive but Trump is even less consistent on his promises than politicians.
Still better than Hillary over all but on this particular issue what's the difference?
And we can't totally blame congressional Reps; Trump is not leading in any meaningful or substantive way.
Besides, don't we hate Congressional Republicans for working with Dems which is what Trump is doing while many here defend him? Seems like a double standard particularly given the fact that Trump is doing a full 180 degree shift on a core issue (illegals) of his campaign.
And here we have another #NeverTrumper throwing his blankey into the game with the MSM. #NeverTrumpers don't understand how our government works. You're disappointed Trump isn't the dictator the MSM promised he would be. I get it.
What don't you understand about "comprehensive" immigration reform??? We know the system is broken....Trump wants to fix it....and for you people that are whining about Trump making a deal with Pelosi/Schumer about DACA and the wall, are you really gonna believe something coming from them??? The same two who have called him a "white supremacist," "fascist", "Putins puppet" "mentally unfit"??? Really??? Why would Trump rescind DACA last week and all of a sudden do a 180 the next??? Think about it...he didn't "Make A DEAL".....as much as the MSM wants you to think he did, he DIDN'T...
Trump didn't rescind DACA last week. He extended it for 6 months, told Congress to fix it by passing amnesty or he would revisit extending it again.
Unless you're a believer in Trump's ability to play 3D chess.
He did not instruct congress to pass DACA. I've covered this with you but you're too damn dumb. Go ahead, post the tweet you think backs up your argument.
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