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Is this the SWFA scope that everyone is talking about? If so, has anyone bought one of the demos they sell? I see them all the time on their sample list page. Is this about the price they sell for on Black Friday? Is the warranty a no questions asked about if you are the original buyer like Leupolds is? https://samplelist.com/catalog/product/view/id/141071/ Right scope, wrong model. The one you linked to is a mildot with .25MOA adjustments. You want the model with Mil-Quad reticle and .1mil adjustments.
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Is this the SWFA scope that everyone is talking about? If so, has anyone bought one of the demos they sell? I see them all the time on their sample list page. Is this about the price they sell for on Black Friday? Is the warranty a no questions asked about if you are the original buyer like Leupolds is? https://samplelist.com/catalog/product/view/id/141071/ Right scope, wrong model. The one you linked to is a mildot with .25MOA adjustments. You want the model with Mil-Quad reticle and .1mil adjustments. I have to ask why mil over moa?
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Is this the SWFA scope that everyone is talking about? If so, has anyone bought one of the demos they sell? I see them all the time on their sample list page. Is this about the price they sell for on Black Friday? Is the warranty a no questions asked about if you are the original buyer like Leupolds is? https://samplelist.com/catalog/product/view/id/141071/ Right scope, wrong model. The one you linked to is a mildot with .25MOA adjustments. You want the model with Mil-Quad reticle and .1mil adjustments. I have to ask why mil over moa? Why would you want two different standards of measurements between your reticle and your adjustments? That's just complicating something that should be simple.
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Is this the SWFA scope that everyone is talking about? If so, has anyone bought one of the demos they sell? I see them all the time on their sample list page. Is this about the price they sell for on Black Friday? Is the warranty a no questions asked about if you are the original buyer like Leupolds is? https://samplelist.com/catalog/product/view/id/141071/ Right scope, wrong model. The one you linked to is a mildot with .25MOA adjustments. You want the model with Mil-Quad reticle and .1mil adjustments. I have to ask why mil over moa? OK, I get it, scope is way better if mil-mil, moa-moa. Misread that turret and reticle were not of the same scale.
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They also have an MOA quad reticle that I think looks an awful lot like a tape measure.
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Say it's dim lighting and one is relying upon the 6X's Mil Quad heavy posts for aiming. Any thoughts on a practical deer killing range or such?
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Say it's dim lighting and one is relying upon the 6X's Mil Quad heavy posts for aiming. Any thoughts on a practical deer killing range or such?
Thanks With about 70-80 people so far, on a 12 inch target- around 150-200 yards.
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You may try the search function. This fantastic scope has been beat up on this forum over time. For the price, you cannot find a better scope. I have two 6x and one 10x. For my poor eyes, I like the 10x best, but both 6x have killed plenty of stuff. I have shot deer at last light with both the 6x and 10x and both have performed great. I shot a white-tailed doe last January at last light using a 10x on my 260, at a lasered 430 yards. I have killed several deer at last light with a 6x on a .308, also.
As far as the 6x, it is plenty for most hunting. I killed an elk using a 6x-equipped 7 mag at 350 yards last year. I can keep it on a vitals-size target at 530 yards without issue. Like I stated, for me, the 10x seems the better choice for the same money, but that is your choice. There is no wrong selection here. I just wish that the recticle was a bit more bold for my eyes, but that is my problem and not the scope.
I am waiting for Black Friday to put one on a recently re-barreled Rem 700.
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The reticle pictures make it look like the MOA-quad reticle is much finer than the Mil-quad, is that the case when looking through these scopes or is it just SWFA's pictures? I like that center dot with open space around it on the MOA quad, wish the mil-quad was the same way.
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The reticle pictures make it look like the MOA-quad reticle is much finer than the Mil-quad, is that the case when looking through these scopes or is it just SWFA's pictures? I like that center dot with open space around it on the MOA quad, wish the mil-quad was the same way. The MOA Quad is not as usable as the MQ. I haven't seen anyone that prefers it.
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if i were sighting in a scope with mil/mil set up and needed to bring the cross hairs up two inches how many clicks would i go?
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If you are at 100 yards 1 mil equals 3.6 inches. Me, I just lay the reticle on the bull, see where it falls on the MQ and make that adjustment. Usually a 2 shot zero affair with the SS...
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Say it's dim lighting and one is relying upon the 6X's Mil Quad heavy posts for aiming. Any thoughts on a practical deer killing range or such?
Thanks With about 70-80 people so far, on a 12 inch target- around 150-200 yards. Thanks!
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The reticle pictures make it look like the MOA-quad reticle is much finer than the Mil-quad, is that the case when looking through these scopes or is it just SWFA's pictures? I like that center dot with open space around it on the MOA quad, wish the mil-quad was the same way. The MOA Quad is not as usable as the MQ. I haven't seen anyone that prefers it. For my 30-06 hunting load a full value wind (90 degrees-10 mph) will produce a 1 moa drift out to ~500 yards. That's why i purchased the 6X moa/moa scope, I use this in conjunction with a range finder. Also, my target scopes are moa as the adjustments are .25 moa as opposed to .36 on the mil scale. For larger targets the mil/mil is easier to use.
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if i were sighting in a scope with mil/mil set up and needed to bring the cross hairs up two inches how many clicks would i go?
Thanks Ed The first part is to stop thinking in "inches". The reticle is marked in .5 mil increments, the turrets adjust in .1mil increments. When you fire a round (in this case point of impact is low) place the reticle on the target and read the correction needed like a tape measure. For your example you would see that you need to come up .6 mil. This works at all ranges- no conversion necessary.
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I must admit I am curious about these SS scopes but am not a target shooter and don't twist turrets. I do want reliability and repeatability. Which model would you recommend for a "from the house deck" coyote/varmint 223 out to about 250 yards?
My eyes are almost 73 years old. Some body parts seem to be older than that. Right now, I use a Leupold VX2 4-12 on that rifle. Shot a coyote this am at 60 yards but most shots are 200 or 225. Would you go 6x or 10x?
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I must admit I am curious about these SS scopes but am not a target shooter and don't twist turrets. I do want reliability and repeatability. Which model would you recommend for a "from the house deck" coyote/varmint 223 out to about 250 yards?
My eyes are almost 73 years old. Some body parts seem to be older than that. Right now, I use a Leupold VX2 4-12 on that rifle. Shot a coyote this am at 60 yards but most shots are 200 or 225. Would you go 6x or 10x? 6x Mil-Quad.
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I have dual dovetail bases on this Rem 700 now. Any idea what height 30mm dual dovetail rings the SS 6x would require? I'd like to stay as low as possible.
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Thanks Formidilosus and others for taking the time to explain things. Still don't have it all figured out, but am learning. Thanks to all for sharing your knowledge with dumb butts like me. I have always sighted in my scopes and let them be. On most of my rifles, I don't have to make any adjustments from year to year. The little rifle that is my go to deer rifles has remained sighted in now for 7 years. Hopefully as some point, I can find a place to shoot longer distances. Not that I will shoot an animal at longer distances, I just think it would be fun to shoot at longer ranges and would have to be a confidence booster whether shooting a deer at 50 yds or 100 yds. So thanks again!
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They also have an MOA quad reticle that I think looks an awful lot like a tape measure. with A RETICLE LIKE THIS and say 800yds is plenty far to be shooting, why twist a turret, why not just hold for your value you need ,, if your gonna twist turrets why have all this in the windshield, maybe 10 moa would be plenty and then the heavy crosshairs, even in a mil reticle same question, for a hunting scope, not a lets see how far away i can hit steel scope,
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