Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Real world differences between the .270win & .270 weatherby?

comerade - I don't think there's much point in a 22" barreled Weatherby magnum, which is why they currently come in 26", and the older ones were available in 24" & 26". The cartridges were designed to run in longer barreled rifles - they need the inches to hit their stride. I hunt frequently in thick woods and swamps in the southeast, usually with a 22" 30-06, and have never wished for a shorter barrel or felt like the longer barrel was a hindrance.

Ziggy - I agree. How long ago was it that men (and some women) carried 8 & 9 lb rifles all over the place and never whined about it? I do have one lightweight rifle and enjoy carrying it, but I sure as Hell don't feel sorry for myself when I'm humping around a full sized rifle.

This "cost" argument never fails to crack me up. Even if I was forced to buy Weatherby factory ammo at full cost, it would still be the cheapest part of the whole hunting experience. If money's a problem, you'll find it's probably a lot cheaper to just go to the grocery store than gear up to go hunting.

Nope, just a human in good shape. 65 years old, 6', 192, 12% body fat. I work out 5 mornings a week, weights and cardio. No gut. I'm also a blacksmith. Afternoons, I do 3 miles in my hunting boots with a 25-30 pound pack, carrying either dumbbells or my rifle...in my hands. You should give it a try - it opens up a lot of possibilities...like carrying a rifle in your hands or being able to tie your shoes, without having to stop to catch your breath.

So much parsing out ballistics and creating scenarios that level the playing field. The problem is that the playing field is not level. If you can't build a 270 Wby rhat can break 3500 with 130s, something is wrong. I chrono every handload and factory load that goes in every firearm I shoot, including 270 Wins in a couple barrel lengths. Even my old 24" 270 mag Vanguard breaks 3400 with 130s. My 270 win Vanguard never got anywhere near that, with it's 24" barrel.

The thing is, the results I get from my Wby are pretty average for standard factory rifles. If you don't want to shell out ridiculous money for a "custom" rifle and don't want to handload, you can get the same velocities. Take it out of the box, scope it and go to work. Could be it's just too simple for some people.

All the cherry picking and skewing stats doesn't change the facts. Build a 26" 270 Win that can run with the Wby and we can have a discussion.

comerade - I don't think there's much point in a 22" barreled Weatherby magnum,

...which is why they currently come in 26", and the older ones were available in 24" & 26". The cartridges were designed to run in longer barreled rifles - they need the inches to hit their stride. I hunt frequently in thick woods and swamps in the southeast, usually with a 22" 30-06, and have never wished for a shorter barrel or felt like the longer barrel was a hindrance.

Ziggy - I agree. How long ago was it that men (and some women) carried 8 & 9 lb rifles all over the place and never whined about it? I do have one lightweight rifle and enjoy carrying it, but I sure as Hell don't feel sorry for myself when I'm humping around a full sized rifle.

I agree.



There we disagree. Although I' have a 26" barreled rifle, I choose not to carry it afield. Personal prefernce is 22" or shorter.

Ziggy, you completely misinterpreted this. Look again and you'll see I was referring to my 22" barreled 30-06 in the woods. Open spaces, however, do not restrict barrel length - in my opinion. Carry what makes you happy, it's what I do.



I'm not Ziggy, but how long ago was it since I gave a flying F what others choose? And why should anyone care if others choose differently? The older I get the more I appreciate light rifles with light recoil. But once I was young and stupid and didn't know better. Now I know I don't need to put up with heavy recoil or weight to get the job done. Many others have apparently come to the same conclusion. Apparently light rifles and low recoil age work for a lot of people.

I don't give a rat's ass what you or anybody else wants to carry. That remark was spawned by whatshisname being a smartass. He couldn't make a case for his dislike of the round, so he took a personal swipe at me and more than one. I thought that was the liberal's move. He was the one who brought up the "9 lb rifle", nobody else. You know, when the wheels come off your argument, time to start making $hit up.

My Weatherby is a light rifle. Not as light as some, but starts out at 6.75 lbs. I don't consider it to be a hard recoiling rifle in 270 Wby, especially with that stock, designed to mitigate recoil. I can shoot it off the bench comfortably. The same rifle in 300 mag - no thanks.

This "cost" argument never fails to crack me up. Even if I was forced to buy Weatherby factory ammo at full cost, it would still be the cheapest part of the whole hunting experience. If money's a problem, you'll find it's probably a lot cheaper to just go to the grocery store than gear up to go hunting.

Most load data for the 270 Wby is grossly watered down. They don't even actually test it. The numbers are computer generated.

To say there's no real world difference between a 270 Win and a 270 Wby is laughable. I've own/owned and loaded for all 3. The Wby simply stomps the WCF. The WSM comes much closer, but if you want the king of .277's, the Weatherby is it.

I'm not schooling you. I suggested you might want to shape up, since you think a 9 lb rifle is unmanageable. I'll bet this flatlander can go anywhere you can though and I'm an old man. I'll be back to the western slope next fall, if you want to have a go at it. I'm game for any challenge.

I guess you're done with the Weatherby/Winchester thing. I don't blame you.

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I reload too, have been since the early 1970s. More for precision than cost, but the cost is certainly a benefit and 95% or more of my shooting is with reloads. I have some rifles that I've never put a factory round through. But in the big picture, factory ammo is a negligible cost. I'll buy it if it's the best solution and I've got to say, Weatherby factory ammo is awful hard to equal.

My last 270 Bee did 3500 fps with 76 gr of IMR 7828 and 130 Hornady Interlock. No 270 win I know of can do this.

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