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Haha god damn how did they get by 50 years ago???? Grin
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Around here 50 years ago alot of folks used something called iron sights. Killed alot of stuff with them too. Back when I was young I couldn't understand why anybody'd need a scope to kill a great big critter like a deer.
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I used an old K4 Weaver initially. Thought I was big time. Then I bought my first "long range" rifle. A M70 270. Mounted a M8 6X on it. Almost too much for deer hunting. Don't know exactly when I got the first 3-9. 9X was reserved for extreme emergencies,or woodchuck. From there it went down hill fast. All the way up to 36 and 40X br scopes. After using them for a summer,I flat couldn't see chit at 6X. They do indeed become crutches. I swear if Id never went beyond 6X,I'd have been just as happy and successful. Save the bench rest game. Still have that old M8. It's been on dozens of rifles. Still tracks and holds zero. Wish I had a dozen of them.
"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
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About 6 months ago I bought a new VXII for my Rem 700 in .223. Oh, now you are really asking for trouble. A Leupold on a Remington 700! You'll probably lose the bolt handle before the recoil of that .223 craps the scope out.......(grin) Bolt handles ,falling off??? Never seen it on a Remington, guy at work had one fall off a Tikka this year though... Yea, there was a spate of, and a lot of talk about, Remington bolt handles coming off at one time. I'm really in for it, myself. I have a mid-70s Remington M700 ADL in .243. I have a Pac Nor .308 barrel on the way, and have the rest of the stuff here. Timney #510 trigger, Grayboe Outlander stock, bottom metal......and a Leupold.......... If the bolt handle comes off, I'll just send it to Redneck for a bolt-on conversion, may do it in the off season anyway. I hadn't heard anything about Tikka.
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the sockpuppets are out in droves this morning...Merry Christmas!
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Bolt handles falling off??? Never seen it on a Remington, guy at work had one fall off a Tikka this year though... [/quote] You should post a pic of that
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I have 6 or 8 Rem 700’s. I tried to break them off, I couldn’t.
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That’s about all we’ve ran, me for 30 years, my old man for way longer, I’ve yet to see it...
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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I used an old K4 Weaver initially. Thought I was big time. Then I bought my first "long range" rifle. A M70 270. Mounted a M8 6X on it. Almost too much for deer hunting. Don't know exactly when I got the first 3-9. 9X was reserved for extreme emergencies,or woodchuck. From there it went down hill fast. All the way up to 36 and 40X br scopes. After using them for a summer,I flat couldn't see chit at 6X. They do indeed become crutches. I swear if Id never went beyond 6X,I'd have been just as happy and successful. Save the bench rest game. Still have that old M8. It's been on dozens of rifles. Still tracks and holds zero. Wish I had a dozen of them. How many MOA per revolution on a perfect tracking M8? I would be interested to know.
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ya know, several years ago I can understand thinking Leupold or nothing but not now. With bang for the bucks being ridiculed I can say that I helped friends buy a Bushnell 4200 for under $200 and a Weaver Super Slam for about the same. Turned others on to Weaver K6 for about $120 and bought a Burris 6x40 with a #4 for about $175. Options like Tract and Vortex and Meopta are now players. Leupold is still a player, hell the last scope I bought was one but these others meant I got more bang for the buck when I pulled the trigger. It is the way it is NOW. With a Meopta available at roughly half the price.......
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of
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Meopro is the one that got me to switch from the VX3. Once you try these you will forget what Leupold is! Randall
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"Who do you consider "non-lens company" ?
It is a company that do not design and makes lens themselves. E.g. Sony, radio antenna company, today makes a lens for digital cameras... (used to be Minolta) even no real idea about making lenses... but who care.
Chinese just make it somehow and stick the "name" on it, and many just re-sell it. E.g. Burris: what in common they have with lens design and producing it?
Zeiss, Leica, Nikon, Canon, ... knows what is the Lens and how to construct it, how fix it inside the housing, how to define tolerances, ...
But and here one is free to buy Fly-Fishing rod from China, even they do not know what is Trout... Well cheap. USA makers are right on the rivers where Trout is...
So that is what is "non-lens company."
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