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Thanks Bristoe, that’s all I needed to feel complete. 😁 Ain’t no region...north, south, east or west that doesn’t have cities filled with liberal democrats so I get a kick when that’s thrown out as evidence of a regions’ superiority, or lack there of.

Now let’s get back on topic of why southerners should bitch and whine about their powerless station in life, how terribly they were treated in a war they started.....all the while decrying how blacks should move on from the slavery argument and leave the past in the past.

Go Fund Me is your friend......I look forward to the grand opening of the Southern Reconstruction Holocaust museum and BBQ Cafe.

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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Ain’t no region...north, south, east or west that doesn’t have cities filled with liberal democrats




There's no reason to gloat about it. I've already acknowledged that you won.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Stifling communism world spread is again a far cry from forcing everyone to be just like us


Well,.....America was allied with the Communists in it's war against Germany,...so there must have been another reason.


Didnt the US also ally with Great Britain. I wonder if the Brits were really bombed by the Nazis.


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Some of y'all are so quick to argue about the Holocaust that you're missing the point, which is not only freedom of speech, but freedom of thought itself. We have entered into the Orwellian, enabled by technology. Few get it.



Those that are quick to the draw to defend the Holocaust are the same ones who are also quick to condemn the South for seceding from the Union. They are the same ones who believe that Blacks are really the victim because of slavery, and therefore to be excused for their violent behavior. They do not believe that a person should have the right to question what is regarded as the "truth." They believe that in WW2 the Germans being the bad guys, anything they did was wrong, and since the Soviets were allies, their atrocities were to be forgotten.

This is not really about the Holocaust, but about freedom of speech and ones right to disagree with someone else. The Holocaust happened, but what right does any country have to put someone in jail who doesn't believe it did. We know there is no Santa Claus, but we don't jail little kids who do believe in him. Same way with the tooth fairy. I believe the Jews had Jesus crucified, but I don't hate them because they did. What Germany did pretty much explains why their country is in such a mess today.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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"Hitler's primary goal was to reverse the Treaty of Versailles and to stop Communist expansion from Russia into Europe."

France was a practice run?

After Britain and France declared war on Germany.


Already answered.....before you asked[again].

Hitler didn't really care about 'war declarations', he was more of a "GO" type and worry about formalities later leader.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Well,...if you want to say that, then say that. But you can't say that America's intent in WW2 was to stifle Communism. America's entry into WW2 enabled Communism.


A bit disingenuous, I think. Yes a valid argument but not doing so would have resulted in who knows what, except of course, the end of this country (and the West) as we know it. What SHOULD have been done, was a full out war in 1919 to crush the commies and help the White Russians, but after WWI, nobody had the stones. Kinda like today and for example Iran. We should have invaded and crushed them a long time ago and pretty soon it will be too late. Such is the danger of isolationists.


Like taking bp meds allowed one to grow old?

Maybe stopping McArthur enabled communism.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Ain’t no region...north, south, east or west that doesn’t have cities filled with liberal democrats




There's no reason to gloat about it. I've already acknowledged that you won.




As long as you say so but you’re mistaken if you think facts equal “gloating”. What was your first clue? Lee’s surrender at Appomattox or the allied liberation of WWII concentration camps?

PS....I can’t claim the win since I wasn’t old enough to fight in the civil war but I will acknowledge that my ancestors won and I’ll pass along your well informed concession to them. I’m sure they’ve been waiting anxiously...


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It still dumbfounds me that some believe it never happened. The evidence is incontrovertible.....period.



Here's the thing that bothers me......and I said this on the a recent thread concerning the Holocaust......the Jews have succeeded in turning the Holocaust into "the only genocide that matters." We know that far more people were killed in that time period by the Soviet Union, but that has been swept under a rug, and not allowed to be mentioned. Why?.........because the Jews have gone to great lengths to make sure of it. If someone can be arrested and charged with a hate crime because they deny the Holocaust, then why not do the same if they refuse to believe the atrocities of the Communists?

Murder is murder, and wrong, whether it was a Polish Jew put to death at Dachau, or a Ukrainian peasant put to death by Stalin's orders.





I went to school during the first part of the Cold War and we probably hear more and studied more about Stalin and the Soviet Gulag labor camps than we did the German camps.

Today the internet is full of stuff like this:

"The Soviet Gulag was a massive system of forced labor camps. Throughout its history some 18 million passed through the prisons and camps of the Gulag. Under Stalin, labor camp prisoners became an important resource for the construction of many industries, including the nation's railways and roads, mining operations, and the timber industry. Millions suffered in the camps, many guilty of no crime.
In the eyes of the authorities, a prisoner had almost no value. An unknown number well into the millions died in Gulag camps. Those who died of hunger, cold, and hard labor were easily replaced by new prisoners."


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
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Stifling communism world spread is again a far cry from forcing everyone to be just like us


Well,.....America was allied with the Communists in it's war against Germany,...so there must have been another reason.


Didnt the US also ally with Great Britain. I wonder if the Brits were really bombed by the Nazis.


Well,..England declared war on Germany. I can only assume that England knew what that meant.

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I find it ironic that a country would have to go to such lengths as these to prove how repentant they are of their totalitarian past.

Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This subject has a way of bringing to the surface the phony conservatives, i.e., those who pretend conservatism, but actually, in their heart of hearts, reject the basic principles on which our nation was founded.


Could you fill in the blanks on this?

Are you talking about the subject of free speech, or of the Holocaust?

What are the basic principles you’re saying are being rejected, and by whom here in this thread?

I remember when both Conservatives and Liberals agreed “I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.” Seems to me that both sides have jettisoned this inconvenient principle in favor of “gotcha-ism”. This became particularly acute on the conservative side since the 16 election when (pseudo) conservatives started playing identity politics.

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And the US libs like Jell0 and Hillary hate Putin, yet she, the commies, and nazis are all socialists. Like a bunch of different
fuggin muzzy sects I suppose.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Bristoe

On the other hand, maybe the Southern American states should have their own Holocaust museum and remembrance days to perpetually call attention to the Reconstruction.


Lolol....you southerners, innocent in your intentions and ignorant in your recollections are poor victims of your own actions. If you didn’t want to get your ass kicked then you shouldn’t have started a war you were destined to lose. Comparing the south’s loss in the civil war to the holocaust would be funny if it wasn’t such a pathetic attempt at moral relativism and victimhood. Ain’t nobody that does victimization like a southerner, black or white you guys are pros at playing the victim.

Losers never like to lose and winners often find it hard to forgive those that committed atrocities against them. You southerners that are still sour from the ass whooping of 150 years ago are akin to the blacks you enslaved that now cry for reparations and retribution.

With all the crowd funding sites and considering how important your loss is I’d think you should start a “Go fund me” for your civil war holocaust museum. You should have enough money inside of a week if so many southerners feel left out of being remembered as victims.


It’s for double damn sure that it wasn’t mouthy little pricks like you that defeated the South.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Ain’t no region...north, south, east or west that doesn’t have cities filled with liberal democrats




There's no reason to gloat about it. I've already acknowledged that you won.




Too bad the Yankee socialist imposed socialism on the south.

I remember when they came from the north and shut down the Texas Rangers from trying to shut down alien farm workers acting up in South Texas. Legal action subsequently prevented effective methods of returning wetbacks to Mexico, thus ensuring increased immigration by aliens and the socialization of the southern border states


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Ain’t no region...north, south, east or west that doesn’t have cities filled with liberal democrats




There's no reason to gloat about it. I've already acknowledged that you won.




As long as you say so but you’re mistaken if you think facts equal “gloating”. What was your first clue? Lee’s surrender at Appomattox or the allied liberation of WWII concentration camps?

PS....I can’t claim the win since I wasn’t old enough to fight in the civil war but I will acknowledge that my ancestors won and I’ll pass along your well informed concession to them. I’m sure they’ve been waiting anxiously...


Well tell them there good fer nuthin yanks to keep theys azzes above the M-D Line. grin wink


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The Real Hawkeye,

Even though what she said/believes is both FALSE & FOOLISH in the extreme, her experience makes me GLAD that I live in the USA, which has a CONSTITUTION & a BILL OF RIGHTS to protect our rights to speak, worship, bear firearms & do numerous other things.

IF you live in a country where STUPIDITY in beliefs is a criminal offense, who is to say that you cannot also be charged/jailed for saying/believing something that is TRUTHFUL, though UNPOPULAR??

To quote a Justice of the SCOTUS of years ago: The First Amendment to our Constitution exists to protect UNPOPULAR speech. Popular speech needs no protection.

just my OPINION, tex


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The first shot of the civil war was fired by the South subsequent to Northern agression, as will occur again when the socialists in the US come for our guns, and as even some northerners with spine would also do if a bunch of aggressive people try to invade their homes and businesses.

I hear its happened before in Ca., Ace. wink

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Originally Posted by curdog4570
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Bristoe

On the other hand, maybe the Southern American states should have their own Holocaust museum and remembrance days to perpetually call attention to the Reconstruction.


Lolol....you southerners, innocent in your intentions and ignorant in your recollections are poor victims of your own actions. If you didn’t want to get your ass kicked then you shouldn’t have started a war you were destined to lose. Comparing the south’s loss in the civil war to the holocaust would be funny if it wasn’t such a pathetic attempt at moral relativism and victimhood. Ain’t nobody that does victimization like a southerner, black or white you guys are pros at playing the victim.

Losers never like to lose and winners often find it hard to forgive those that committed atrocities against them. You southerners that are still sour from the ass whooping of 150 years ago are akin to the blacks you enslaved that now cry for reparations and retribution.

With all the crowd funding sites and considering how important your loss is I’d think you should start a “Go fund me” for your civil war holocaust museum. You should have enough money inside of a week if so many southerners feel left out of being remembered as victims.


It’s for double damn sure that it wasn’t mouthy little pricks like you that defeated the South.


Lolol....you’re the mouthiest little prick here. Always running your cock holster from the safety and anonymity of your computer. You never have anything positive to contribute and your anger and unhappiness with your life is evidenced by your continual childish name calling. I’d tell you to grow up but it’d be more appropriate to just wait for your old wrinkled ass to die.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Eisenhower was a far seeing genius to foresee that the genocide would be denied many years in the future. He did all he could to make sure as many people as possible saw it.

Wrong. What Ike saw was a total clusterfuck that’s typical on the losing side of any long drawn out major war, ie., lots of dead people (not just Jews) who died in horrible conditions from disease and starvation. He found no homicidal gas chambers and no systematic extermination program. If he did, no questions would remain and there would be no need to criminalize the normal processes of historical inquiry.




General Eisenhower wrote the following:
On a recent tour of the forward areas in First and Third Armies, I stopped momentarily at the salt mines to take a look at the German treasure.  There is a lot of it.  But the most interesting — although horrible — sight that I encountered during the trip was a visit to a German internment camp near Gotha. The things I saw beggar description.  While I was touring the camp I encountered three men who had been inmates and by one ruse or another had made their escape.  I interviewed them through an interpreter. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick.  In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter.  He said he would get sick if he did so.  I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops the tendency to charge these allegations merely to “propaganda.”

Although he didn’t mention the name Ohrdruf In his book entitled Crusade in Europe, Eisenhower wrote the following about April 12, 1945, the day he visited the Merkers salt mines that held the Nazi treasures:
The same day, I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock. I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that “the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.” Some members of the visiting party were unable to go through with the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.


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As far as anonymity of my computer is concerned, I’ll point out that I’ve personally met many of the forum members in person and hunted and camped with several.

I believe they all will verify that I’d say the same thing to your face, given the opportunity.

Any members who have met you would verify that you would just duck your head and take it.


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
As far as anonymity of my computer is concerned, I’ll point out that I’ve personally met many of the forum members in person and hunted and camped with several.

I believe they all will verify that I’d say the same thing to your face, given the opportunity.

Any members who have met you would verify that you would just duck your head and take it.



You would, I've that I am certain.


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