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I have never had an issue with Barnes bullets then and now. You?

I own a Mdl 700 BDL in 7mm Rem. Magnum, a Mdl 1100 in 12 Ga. Magnum, and a Mdl 788 in 222 Remington. All are fine quality guns. The newest of those was purchased over 40 years ago. The only problem I had with any one of them was a factory recall to upgrade the trigger on the model 700.

Two years ago I purchased a model 700 in .270 Winchester for a graduation present for my Grandsons High School graduation. The stock was molded fiberglass(?) and the fit and finish weren't up to the quality of the older firearms. It does shoot well with three shots going into 1" or thereabout groups at 100 yds. So far no problems. But I am off of purchasing anything Remington.

I do have several Marlin manufactured fireamrs which were purchased long before being gobbled up by Remington.

They use to be called Corp. Raiders. Cheers NC

A lot of folks are not willing to pay for real quality whilst allowing the builder to be profitable. Said profitability defined by the stock owner/stock holder.

I have a lot of their guns. I like them. This is sad!

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I'm both an MBA and a rifle looney, being either isn't that big a deal.

Remington isn't doing a good job of building firearms that can successfully compete with Ruger and Savage on price and quality.


This explains all. These people have historically underpriced Rem. but to be judged of lower quality.......

I'm willing to bet that a lot of these people calling Remington guns junk don't own any. My "junky" Remington's work just fine.

It goes way beyond just "Remington".

Remington Outdoor Group owns 13 firearm or shooting industry companies, including Marlin, H&R, DPMS, Bushmaster...


For one, I don't really care to see that large of a percentage of the firearms industry here in the US, crash and burn.

That wouldn't be good news for anyone.

I have plenty of Remingtons products, from an old style 760 that my grandfather bought new, a half dozen or so 870's from 410 - 12 gauge, and several model 700's and model 7's, but all of the are 20 or so years old and fine quality, their products of today, are not up to the quality standards that today's machining capabilities are capable of. Poor designs, cost cutting on materials and processes is showing in declining sales and profitability at a time when both gun and ammo sales are going thru the roof. They are in desperate need of new management and new priorities.

Spot on

+1. I’m no Remington guy, but I want to see them strong and thriving.

I have two new Remington Rifles.......Both seem like Good Quality to me.....The 5R is a tack Driver....Fit and Finnish look perfect to me........I also have a new RM380......Fit and Finnish and function are 1st Notch to me...I just put 200 rounds thru the 380 No failures of any kind.....I also have several other make of rifles in my safe...Savage, Ruger, Kimber, They appear to be of no better quality than the Remington.......Ruger and Savage are definitely no Better quality than Remington......Not that long ago I was anti Remington...They are Now my favorite rifle by far...And I have owned at least 50 in the last 10 years never got a bad one.....Pass me a Remington.


If you believe everything you read on the internet you would Own nothing.....Because it is all junk

Doesn't surprise me - considering the crap they've been making over the last decade or so..

This is about Cerebus, not Remington as a gun manufacturer.

If there is low quality control, that is because of the managing financial partner, not because the guns are junk. If the design of the 700 is the same as it was 20-40 years ago when they were awesome, then it's all about the financials not the production.

Alas, all the new Remington shotguns and rifles I've seen shot in the last 5 years have been more functional/accurate than anything from the past.

So if I want a Remmy action for a future build, I ought to be buying one now?



I tried my first and last Barnes product this year during rifle season. Shot an ''X" through a large bodied spike just over one-hundred yards distant with my Roberts. Failed to expand. Shame, because they shoot like a house a'fire in my rifle.

The best thing that could happen to the shooting industry and for consumers is for them to go bust and for there to be a fire sale of the various brand names in there. Someone will by Remington, Barnes, Bushmaster, etc. without all that debt load and make a go of it. There is a lot of value in those names, though admittedly, the last decade has been hard on the Remington reputation.

Remington needs to make 700s, 870s, and 1100s. They can sell enough of those to be profitable if they don’t have the huge debt. If they want to innovate, do something easy and pretty cheap like building a 700 that takes AICS magazines.

They should hire Bristoe so he could show them how to machine things. Get some 'fire influence in there.

If I thought Remington's were junk, why would I own any?

BTW, I don't own any, if that tells you anything.

Anyway, shouldn't this be on the Remington Collectors sub-forum? Oh wait, never mind.

The Remington 700 has always been a great action. Remington has done a good job of building and barreling those actions through the years. They should have found a better way of attaching the bolt handle and they should have been more proactive in dealing with the trigger issue. But the 700 is today a great American rifle as it always has been. QC hasn't always been spot on unfortunately. Remington 870 shotguns are the gold standard in pump shotguns. Remington should have done something about the rust attracting matte finish though. I have literally watched rust develop in heavy salt marsh air. Remington totally missed an opportunity to make a "guide" gun out of their pump rifle platform. A 338 federal (or the chambering of your choice) in a stainless synthetic platform would make a sweet "guide" gun. Mine would be stainless, carbon fiber synthetic with a straight grip stock and an 18" barrel in 338 Federal.

Remington managed to malign the Marlin name. Sorta. Marlin was always a budget gun. They had their share of issues but the lever guns were generally functional, reliable and well put together. Remington undeniably botched the initial manufacture of Marlin lever guns. There were serious fit and function issues and customer service and repair was simply bad in dealing with those issues. While Remington has finally gotten mostly back on track with the lever guns, they will never recover from the damage they did in mishandling that label. What's weird is that Marlin rimfires never appeared to suffer the same problems. They remain well respected budget rimfires.

What was that horrible damned cheap Remington bolt rifle that was being made in the mid 90's? A 710? That thing was a pre Cerebrus abortion of a rifle. So we can't pin all the blame on that takeover.

Remington customer service across the board has been pretty darned lackluster through all their missteps beginning with the 710. That has undoubtedly hurt them. We consumers can be pretty forgiving of manufacturing and quality control issues as long as customer service and repair is good. See Ruger. You can even get away with bad customer service if your product is exceptional. See Tikka.

In some ways it saddens me to see this happening with Remington. My Papaw was a Remington man. I am sure there are some good, dedicated craftsmen working with the company. I never want to see a quality worker suffer. But I'll be damned if they didn't bring this failure on themselves. Through all of this I never got so much as a hint that the company gave a schidt.