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"The loss of life because of the privations, cruel treatment and mass murders which were a feature of the axis concentration camps had to be included in any comprehensive record of costs in terms of human lives."

The above is the sole reference in the 1963 Encyclopedia Britannica to what is today referred to as "The Holocaust." No mention of the word Holocaust. In fact, the only reference to anything like what's called "The Holocaust" wasn't found in an article about the Jews, but about WWII, reproduced above, and didn't even reference Jews, just "human lives."

Were the authors of the Encyclopedia Britannica uninformed in 1963 about what was done by Germany during WWII to the Jews ... about their program of genocide against them?

What about going further back in time, closer to the war? What about the 1956 Encyclopedia Britannica?

"In order to effect a solution of the Jewish problem in line with their theories, the Nazis carried out a series of expulsions and deportations of Jews, mostly of original east European stock, from nearly all European states.

Men frequently separated from their wives, and others from children, were sent by the thousands to Poland and western Russia. There they were put into concentration camps, or huge reservations, or sent into the swamps, or out on the roads, into labor gangs. Large numbers perished under the inhuman conditions in which they labored."

This article was written for the 1956 Encyclopedia Britannica by Jewish historian Jacob Marcus, with references to sources such as Encyclopedia Judaica, Judishe Lexicon, the Jewish Encyclopedia, and the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia. Again, only a mention of "thousands" of Jews, not millions (least of all six million), sent into captivity and work brigades by the Germans during the war. No mention, again, of any gas chambers or program of genocide on the part of the Germans.

Was this man (a Jew) an antisemite, or had the fictional narrative of "The Holocaust" simply not yet been fully developed? Or perhaps serious historians (even those with an anti-German, pro-Jewish, bias) stuck only to facts, and ignored what they knew were preposterous tales found in Soviet war propaganda during the conflict.

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It’s a good thing we have the anti-Casting of Majdanek gas chamber door - ushmm.org
www.ushmm.org › Learn about The Holocaust
This casting of a gas chamber door in the Majdanek killing center, near Lublin, Poland, was commissioned by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. Majdanek …
police so closely monitoring our discussion.


You might gain some ground if you would respond to your question asking for German built gas chambers....


And BOWSINGER, I'll ask you again.............what are the casting dates of those furnaces. I could care less when they say they were installed. I want to know the date cast into the metal of those alleged furnaces.


Do your own Homework. The internet is full of ptotos like this:
Casting of Majdanek gas chamber door - ushmm.org
www.ushmm.org › Learn about The Holocaust
This casting of a gas chamber door in the Majdanek killing center, near Lublin, Poland, was commissioned by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. Majdanek …

So what? The Anti-Semitics claim the dates/ the photos are all faked anyway...

I have already posted a lot of the construction date records for the camps that predate the Russians arriving:
“Established in March 1933, the Dachau concentration camp was the first regular concentration camp established by the National Socialist (Nazi) government. Heinrich Himmler, in his capacity as police president of Munich, officially described the camp as "the first concentration camp for political prisoners." It was located on the grounds of an abandoned munitions factory near the northeastern part of the town of Dachau, about 10 miles northwest of Munich in southern Germany.

n 1942, the crematorium area was constructed next to the main camp. It included the old crematorium and the new crematorium (Barrack X) with a gas chamber. There is no credible evidence that the gas chamber in Barrack X was used to murder human beings. Instead, prisoners underwent "selection"; those who were judged too sick or weak to continue working were sent to the Hartheim "euthanasia" killing center near Linz, Austria. Several thousand Dachau prisoners were murdered at Hartheim. Further, the SS used the firing range and the gallows in the crematoria area as killing sites for prisoners.

In Dachau, as in other Nazi camps, German physicians performed medical experiments on prisoners, including high-altitude experiments using a decompression chamber, malaria and tuberculosis experiments, hypothermia experiments, and experiments testing new medications. Prisoners were also forced to test methods of making seawater potable and of halting excessive bleeding. Hundreds of prisoners died or were permanently disabled as a result of these experiments.

Dachau prisoners were used as forced laborers. At first, they were employed in the operation of the camp, in various construction projects, and in small handicraft industries established in the camp. Prisoners built roads, worked in gravel pits, and drained marshes. During the war, forced labor utilizing concentration camp prisoners became increasingly important to German armaments production.”

So what? The Anti-Semitics make a big deal about all those who died from lack of medical care instead of in the chambers...somehow that makes it all better...

["Although he didn’t mention the name Ohrdruf In his book entitled Crusade in Europe, Eisenhower wrote the following about April 12, 1945, the day he visited the Merkers salt mines that held the Nazi treasures:"]

The same day, I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that “the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.” Some members of the visiting party were unable to go through with the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.
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"So without going to see Buchenwald or any other camp, Eisenhower immediately started a propaganda campaign about the horror of the German camps.  Was the word typhus ever mentioned in all of this propaganda.  NO!"


So what's the deal BOWSINGER am I saying it wrong? None of those photo's show any casting dates. I do not care what Eisenhower wrote, he had an agenda. Adding to the narrative ensured his future.



I REPEAT...
So what? The Anti-Semitics claim the dates/ the photos are all faked anyway...AS IN THE PHOTOS OF THE CASTING DATES...
You can cast any date you want...


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During the First World War we were told that German soldiers routinely tossed the infants of those they conquered into the air and caught them on their bayonets for sport. After the war it was untenable to maintain that this was true, since Germany remained an intact nation that could counter such notions in the public forum, so it was dropped. Not the case after WWII, so anti-German war propaganda was maintained, and eventually seeped into the history books ... everyone, apart from the Germans, having much to gain by it.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
"The loss of life because of the privations, cruel treatment and mass murders which were a feature of the axis concentration camps had to be included in any comprehensive record of costs in terms of human lives."

The above is the sole reference in the 1963 Encyclopedia Britannica to what is today referred to as "The Holocaust." No mention of the word Holocaust. In fact, the only reference to anything like what's called "The Holocaust" wasn't found in an article about the Jews, but about WWII, reproduced above, and didn't even reference Jews, just "human lives."

Were the authors of the Encyclopedia Britannica uninformed in 1963 about what was done by Germany during WWII to the Jews ... about their program of genocide against them?

What about going further back in time, closer to the war? What about the 1956 Encyclopedia Britannica?

"In order to effect a solution of the Jewish problem in line with their theories, the Nazis carried out a series of expulsions and deportations of Jews, mostly of original east European stock, from nearly all European states.

Men frequently separated from their wives, and others from children, were sent by the thousands to Poland and western Russia. There they were put into concentration camps, or huge reservations, or sent into the swamps, or out on the roads, into labor gangs. Large numbers perished under the inhuman conditions which they labored."

This article was written for the 1956 Encyclopedia Britannica by Jewish historian Jacob Marcus, with references to sources such as Encyclopedia Judaica, Judishe Lexicon, the Jewish Encyclopedia, and the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia. Again, only a mention of "thousands" of Jews, not millions (least of all six million), sent into captivity and work brigades by the Germans during the war. No mention, again, of any gas chambers or program of genocide on the part of the Germans.

Was this man (a Jew) an antisemite, or had the fictional narrative of "The Holocaust" simply not yet been fully developed? Or perhaps serious historians (even those with an anti-German, pro-Jewish, bias) stuck only to facts, and ignored what they knew were preposterous tales found in Soviet war propaganda during the conflict.



One Holocaust denial argument is the comparison of the population of Jews before and after the Holocaust. They state that the 1940 World Almanac gives the world Jewish population as 15,319,359, while the 1948 World Almanac gives the world Jewish population as 15,713,638. They therefore claim that either the figures are wrong, or the Holocaust, meaning the deaths of millions of Jews, cannot have happened to any extent similar to the claimed 6 million.

Ken McVay writes:
Only in 1949 are postwar estimates employed, the figures given are for estimates made in 1948. A year or two lag seems to be common for various other population estimates given by the World Almanac. The difference between the 1938 and 1948 figures is thus 4,481,491. In 1949, however, the World Almanac gives a revised 1939 population of 16,643,120 giving a difference of between 1938 and 1947 of 5,376,520. Where the extra population between 1938 and 1939 came from is not cited, though one might speculate that it was based upon the Nazi estimates made in 1942 for the Wannsee Conference. Despite the apparent exactness of the numbers listed, the World Almanac warns that all numbers listed are estimates.

These corrected numbers have been posted before in response to TRH.
He ignores them. That make him a liar.


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Classic TRH, somebody hands him his ass and he calls it "revisionism". Kinda like the 9/11 towers was a jew inside job.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
"The loss of life because of the privations, cruel treatment and mass murders which were a feature of the axis concentration camps had to be included in any comprehensive record of costs in terms of human lives."

The above is the sole reference in the 1963 Encyclopedia Britannica to what is today referred to as "The Holocaust." No mention of the word Holocaust. In fact, the only reference to anything like what's called "The Holocaust" wasn't found in an article about the Jews, but about WWII, reproduced above, and didn't even reference Jews, just "human lives."

Were the authors of the Encyclopedia Britannica uninformed in 1963 about what was done by Germany during WWII to the Jews ... about their program of genocide against them?

What about going further back in time, closer to the war? What about the 1956 Encyclopedia Britannica?

"In order to effect a solution of the Jewish problem in line with their theories, the Nazis carried out a series of expulsions and deportations of Jews, mostly of original east European stock, from nearly all European states.

Men frequently separated from their wives, and others from children, were sent by the thousands to Poland and western Russia. There they were put into concentration camps, or huge reservations, or sent into the swamps, or out on the roads, into labor gangs. Large numbers perished under the inhuman conditions which they labored."

This article was written for the 1956 Encyclopedia Britannica by Jewish historian Jacob Marcus, with references to sources such as Encyclopedia Judaica, Judishe Lexicon, the Jewish Encyclopedia, and the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia. Again, only a mention of "thousands" of Jews, not millions (least of all six million), sent into captivity and work brigades by the Germans during the war. No mention, again, of any gas chambers or program of genocide on the part of the Germans.

Was this man (a Jew) an antisemite, or had the fictional narrative of "The Holocaust" simply not yet been fully developed? Or perhaps serious historians (even those with an anti-German, pro-Jewish, bias) stuck only to facts, and ignored what they knew were preposterous tales found in Soviet war propaganda during the conflict.



One Holocaust denial argument is the comparison of the population of Jews before and after the Holocaust. They state that the 1940 World Almanac gives the world Jewish population as 15,319,359, while the 1948 World Almanac gives the world Jewish population as 15,713,638. They therefore claim that either the figures are wrong, or the Holocaust, meaning the deaths of millions of Jews, cannot have happened to any extent similar to the claimed 6 million.

Ken McVay writes:
Only in 1949 are postwar estimates employed, the figures given are for estimates made in 1948. A year or two lag seems to be common for various other population estimates given by the World Almanac. The difference between the 1938 and 1948 figures is thus 4,481,491. In 1949, however, the World Almanac gives a revised 1939 population of 16,643,120 giving a difference of between 1938 and 1947 of 5,376,520. Where the extra population between 1938 and 1939 came from is not cited, though one might speculate that it was based upon the Nazi estimates made in 1942 for the Wannsee Conference. Despite the apparent exactness of the numbers listed, the World Almanac warns that all numbers listed are estimates.

These corrected numbers have been posted before in response to TRH.
He ignores them. That make him a liar.


Or you hoodwinked.

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Dunno why so many get wound up bout the holocaust.

Jews don't seem ta GAS bout it, unless they're griftin for money or position.

And it appears, the jews are wantin another one.

They're votin socialist/globalist as can be in this country, which can lead to the situation that got em bit in the ass in Germany.

If they be successful, and a new age Adolf pops up ta put em in there place, ya won't see me bitchin bout it.

Doubtful I'd even wave goodbye.

Complain bout the chambers, whilst sellin the gas.

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Pretty good at lying, aren't you Hawkeye?

A page or so ago you posted three links and then said that they proved that the International Red Cross claimed only 300,000 Jews perished in the Holocaust. Not so. The article refers only to some children from Rumania.

Then you said that the Red Cross found no evidence of extermination camps. But the link says they weren't allowed to inspect any, except Theriesienstadt.

And you even claim that General Eisenhower lied to further his career.

So it goes.

Look I get it. You don't like Jews. Maybe a Jew took your job once because he worked harder than you. Or maybe you resent that Jews have IQs that are high. Or some Jews were admitted to a university that denied admission to your kid. I dunno.

But at least admit the source of your prejudice to yourself and stop lying to us.


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I've read it cover to cover twice ... the first time on the recommendation of our very own SteveNo. Well worth a careful study.

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I think I’ve read every post on this thread and I don’t recall anyone owning up to being Jewish except maybe one fella aways back.

So....... What is the motivation for those defending the idea of a Jewish Holocaust as described by the Jews?

Sounds like they are on board with silencing any dissenting voices...... like the Canadian woman.

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I believe I know why, but will wait and see if any of them will volunteer an answer first.

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I think I’ve read every post on this thread and I don’t recall anyone owning up to being Jewish except maybe one fella aways back.

So....... What is the motivation for those defending the idea of a Jewish Holocaust as described by the Jews?

Sounds like they are on board with silencing any dissenting voices...... like the Canadian woman.
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She is arrested for "hate crimes." But she didn't do anything. She is arrested for what she thought.
She is arrested for thought crimes.

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I think I’ve read every post on this thread and I don’t recall anyone owning up to being Jewish except maybe one fella aways back.

So....... What is the motivation for those defending the idea of a Jewish Holocaust as described by the Jews?

Sounds like they are on board with silencing any dissenting voices...... like the Canadian woman.
Exactly.


I'll take a swing at it, I think older people are to invested in the narrative. My Grandpa fought the Germans in WWII. I've heard and qouted this since I could walk. Watching Trump running for President and thinking about the jews turned into soap is when I started questioning how much BS I have been fed in my lifetime.


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Didnt the US also ally with Great Britain. I wonder if the Brits were really bombed by the Nazis.


Well SOMEBODY landed a bomb behind my mom's house one night, made quite an impression or so she says. So did the Messerschmidt that made a fake strafing run over the playground one day.

Another thing she really recalls too was the throbbing sound that the synchronized engines of the German bombers made. Assuming they were really German of course.


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French hatred of the Germans and German disdain for the French (and everyone else save maybe the Brits) goes back a long time, at least to Napoleon.


Certainly longer than that, my experience was that hatred and disdain for somebody or several somebodies to varying degrees was pretty universal.

Our own American hatreds have been sorta shallow by comparison.


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Canada has a couple of cute girls in the Olympics this year.


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Most people today only hear that 6 million Jews were put to death by the Nazis in WW2. They have absolutely no idea, because the history books and teachers don't teach it, about what I call "the rest of the story."

I have never been a Holocaust denier......it happened, the Nazis did kill millions of Jews.


Odd, then, that upon close examination, virtually not a single detail of the Holocaust narrative survives scrutiny. If it were able to, subjecting its claims to historical scrutiny wouldn't have been outlawed by just about every Western nation besides the one possessing a First Amendment.

PS Canada is not on the list only because they don't call it a Holocaust Denial Law. They disingenuously call it something else, but utilize it as one.


TRH, while we readily agree on most things, I think there's just too much evidence to deny that it happened.......to one extent or another. One can call it what they want, but the Nazis did in fact roundup and kill millions of Jews.

But, my reasons for posting about this are twofold.......first, someone should not be jailed and prosecuted for not believing it happened. That's simply ludicrous, and so wrong as to be almost unbelievable. Secondly, most of the Bolsheviks were Jews, the start of Communism in the Soviet Union. We know many innocent people were slaughtered under the Communists, and that number is far greater than the number of Jews that the Germans killed. Yet, the Jews have gone to great lengths to make it seem as if the only slaughter of innocents that ever happened was to them. We know that not to be true, at least some of us do.

I'm not going to argue this with you. We aren't as far apart as you may think.



5 of the 11 Bolshevik s were Jew, yet less than 5% of the Russian population was jewish. It was a German Jew who killed the tsar and his entire family, and a German Jew that gave the order. Least we forget that it was a German Jew who wrote the communist manifesto and they were trying to ferment the same type of revolution in Germany and across Europe. Thank God Hitler stopped a jewish communist takeover.


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