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Why is it so easy for them, and so hard for the right to get even two people to agree on whether it's daylight at noon, or dark at midnight?


They are much more susceptible to propaganda and easily manipulated by people who can lead them, like lemmings, over any handy cliff.

People on the right tend to think for themselves, and often have differing viewpoints, as can be seen in any thread here on the fire.

We are going to have to start acting in unison and working toward our common goal, or we can just give it up.

That's a great point that I hadn't considered. I think the other major obstacle is that MSM along with FB, Google, ect. has a huge impact shaping perception for the masses and is completely against us as are most of our elected leaders from both parties.

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Originally Posted by deflave
They just rally behind some Eleven Looking wannabe.



Spot on, good call.

But... The other 99% of the guys on this thread have no idea what that means...


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Originally Posted by oldtimer303

Its not the guns its a mental health issue that everyone turns their eyes away from. GW


Spot on!

All the kids know is that they are getting their schit blown away while in their class rooms so they want to get rid of the gun. They don't have to be coached, bribed or trained to feel that way, they are living it.

One local High School near me received called in threats all week. By the end of the week only 150 of the 1300 students were attending class. They were at home too afraid to go to school.

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/...eats-in-four-days-at-central-high-school

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Right or wrong... The leftist Commies are well organized.

Why is it so easy for them, and so hard for the right to get even two people to agree on whether it's daylight at noon, or dark at midnight?


This is why if they manage to push stupid unjust gun laws into place there will no one to blame but our selves.

Why has the mental health issues not been addressed?
It's been a no brainer for years now and nothing has been done.

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They just rally behind some Eleven Looking wannabe.



Spot on, good call.

But... The other 99% of the guys on this thread have no idea what that means...


Because everything is upside down.


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I was dropping the kids off at school one day last week and as I was dropping them off the fire alarm was going off and the kids were all streaming outside as they were taught. Seeing all those kids going through the motions of yet ANOTHER false alarm I thought how easy it’d be for a couple ragheads to do some real damage. All they’d need to do is pull the alarm and wait for their unsuspecting targets to walk right into their ambush. Scary to think how woefully unprepared our system is to deal with bad people intent on doing harm to our children and how unthinking the administration is when it comes to preventing our children from being ambushed. The morons in charge are so focused on guns that they’re paralyzed to affect meaningful change or make pertinent changes that address the modern threats that schools face. They think that another law, a can of baked beans or a bucket of rocks will keep them safe.

We just approved a levy to replace our old high school at a cost of $150 million. The biggest change the new school offers is a single entrance and less external doors that might allow a bad guy access. Our current school has something like 83 potential entry points which makes deterring a bad guy almost impossible. A single entry point allows for better control and an opportunity to neutralize someone intent on doing harm from entering with a gun.


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Originally Posted by bigfish9684
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They just rally behind some Eleven Looking wannabe.



Spot on, good call.

But... The other 99% of the guys on this thread have no idea what that means...


Because everything is upside down.



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Originally Posted by 16bore
Heard an interesting interview with Newt where he mentioned how amazingly fast all this was funded and organized. You know, just a bunch of high school students. The same ones that can't stop eating Tide Pods or lift their faces from their phones.


So let the bright knowledgeable "students" provide all the research and facts that support what they "think" will "fix" the "problem".


Do they realize that their own ignorance and stupidity IS the problem? They are a result of two clicks and here's the answer and never look further that the first thing Google spits back at them.

Maybe they should have yelled a little louder when they KNEW about how much of a threat the POS shooter kid was in the first place.





They should have beat the sheit out of him, but 'bullying' isn't condoned by the 'Fire pussy parade.


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Originally Posted by philgood80
They are being used as pawns in an evil game that looks eerily similar to China’s cultural revolution. Out with the old, and let the kids think they are the warriors that are fighting for the survival of “their” culture. All the while they are trying to destroy American culture.

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The kids are focusing on the guns, when it is a much bigger, multifaceted problem. The failures from the multiple government agencies that are there "to protect" showed epic failure in this instance. Yet they focus on the object.

The same mentality of letting the government protect you, and the government will protect me is exactly what caused this.

At least some of the lines in the manifest address this.


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The Florida students and teachers had an opportunity to stop their shooting before it happened. Teachers, students and security all were aware of the severe problems the shooter had. Everyone from the ground up failed. Guess all are suffering from depression because of their inactivity. School security starts first with the students who have a moral responsibility to report other students who have issues. From their it goes all the way up to the FBI . Had the students publicly protested the inactivity of those in the line above them before the shooting it might have been avoided.

Its not the guns its a mental health issue that everyone turns their eyes away from. Death rate will be much greater when those inclined to kill find ways to take larger numbers as the Muslim terrorist are doing. Best to not hinder the citizens right to protect themselves as the government system is unable to do so.

Bottom line we all have a moral responsibility to report up before the fact not after. GW


Oh yeah. The hypocrisy is off the charts. And nobody questions the electing of that fugking MORON of a sheriff they have. Nobody demands he step down. They just rally behind some Eleven Looking wannabe.

Speaking of which, I'd love to see the result of my 16 year old, blond hair, blue eyed, 6'1, 185lb son standing in front of America in an olive drab jacket and a Confederate Battle Flag on his right sleeve advocating for state's rights. Or hell, even a Don't Tread on Me flag. I'm sure that'd go over great.


Yeah my 19yo 6'2" 220 lb son wearing his molon labe shirt and 16yo sophomore being able to mount a valid argument against the cupcakes would have their heads imploding.


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4 and 9. The rest will be flushed.

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The kids are focusing on the guns because they don't want to admit to any responsibility or that they could be part of the problem (e.g: bullying and harassment). Second, their parents are probably blind ass liberals (Our county is full of them) laying the anti-gun schit on them daily. Third, the parents don't parent. I would guess that most parents these days in that area are what I call "drive by" parents. They leave the kids upbringing to the teachers and what do you think the kids are getting out of that? I live 20 miles south of Parkland and know the area well.

BTW- that Sheriff Scott Israel is a complete douche liberal dumbass who thinks nobody should have guns but cops. If he thought he had a shot at taking everybody in the county's guns away, he'd try. But, you can bank on the fact it damn well wouldn't be his dumb ass coming through the door to take them.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Right or wrong... The leftist Commies are well organized.

Why is it so easy for them, and so hard for the right to get even two people to agree on whether it's daylight at noon, or dark at midnight?


Because they have an agenda.

We don't.



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Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Calhoun
The Guardian gave them an outlet.. here's highlights from their list.

1) Ban semi-automatic weapons that fire high-velocity rounds
Civilians shouldn’t have access to the same weapons that soldiers do. That’s a gross misuse of the second amendment.

2) Ban accessories that simulate automatic weapons
That’s why we believe that bump stocks, high-capacity magazines and similar accessories that simulate the effect of military-grade automatic weapons should be banned.

3) Establish a database of gun sales and universal background checks
We believe that there should be a database recording which guns are sold in the United States, to whom, and of what caliber and capacity they are.
Just as the department of motor vehicles has a database of license plates and car owners, the Department of Defense should have a database of gun serial numbers and gun owners. This data should be paired with infractions of gun laws, past criminal offenses and the status of the gun owner’s mental health and physical capability.

4) Change privacy laws to allow mental healthcare providers to communicate with law enforcement
privacy laws should be amended. That will allow us to prevent people who are a danger to themselves or to others from purchasing firearms.

5) Close gun show and secondhand sales loopholes
Thanks to loopholes, people who otherwise wouldn’t be able to buy firearms are able to purchase them at gun shows and secondhand sales. The existence of these loopholes reflects the ineptitude of state and federal legislators.

6) Allow the CDC to make recommendations for gun reform
The fact that they are currently prohibited from doing so undermines the first amendment. It also violates the rights of the American people.

7) Raise the firearm purchase age to 21
With the exception of those who are serving the United States in the military, the age to obtain any firearm must be raised to 21.

8) Dedicate more funds to mental health research and professionals
Federal and state government should earmark more funds specifically for mental health services.

9) Increase funding for school security
Though this idea has been proposed in the past, these funds should not be appropriated from the already scarce funding for public education. Governments should find resources to secure the millions of children that attend public schools without taking away from the quality of education that is offered at these institutions.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...and-students-manifesto-americas-gun-laws



Does anyone really think this is the work of teenage students...all by themselves, without input from the anti crowd?



Not at all. That was probably copied directly from a yellowed sheet of paper that has resided in Fucquie Schumer's top desk drawer since 1980, typed on an Underwood electric.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Right or wrong... The leftist Commies are well organized.

Why is it so easy for them, and so hard for the right to get even two people to agree on whether it's daylight at noon, or dark at midnight?


Because they have an agenda.

We don't.



Travis


Sadly, our agenda needs to be preserving our Constitutional rights.

Pretty bad when we have to do that with other citizens here.


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Originally Posted by Wacenturion
As one infamous Commie said....."Useful Idiots"
Well, they're certainly idiots.....but they're not, in any way, useful..


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Right or wrong... The leftist Commies are well organized.

Why is it so easy for them, and so hard for the right to get even two people to agree on whether it's daylight at noon, or dark at midnight?


Because they have an agenda.

We don't.



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Rule #10: Since 25 high school kids were killed in the last year in school shootings, while 986 high school kids were killed in car wrecks while they were texting while driving, mandate that no one under age 18 may have an Iphone, and no one under age 21 may get a driver's license.

This new law would save thousands of lives, and since there are not pesky rules in the so-called US Constitution in the way, this new law could be passed by every state legislature tomorrow, and go into effect on Friday.

The "Not One More Iphone March on Washington" will be next Saturday, expect 900,000 riled up, sorrowful, crying high school kids to attend.

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