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All I know is that from the time that I grew up until now that the world has changed, and not for the better. My parents both worked full time to support four kids, but worked opposite shifts to make sure one of them were always home for the kids...show me any modern family that would do the same.

Yeah, it is hard to get knocked up over an Iphone or the internet. I don't believe kids are screwing near as much these days as they were 40 and 50 years ago.

antelope_sniper: Your colorful charts don't mean schitt!!! The old saying "figures don't lie, but liars sure can figure" comes to mind. If you truly think we are better off now than we were 20 years ago then you are delusional.

Parents are just as self centered at the kids we're bitching about. It's all about me. These are all little pieces to a big puzzle, glorified by the nightly news.

Is it me, or is society as a whole facing a bigger wrath of problems than ever before? I know for a fact that the day I stopped listening to talk radio and watching anything other than the local news that things seemed to mellow out. Call it burying my head in the sand, but damn man. Doesn't make sense to get pissed off about things that are totally out of my control.


It's like I said earlier, look at the pissing contests on this forum. Even this thread. They might be superficial topics (not this one), but emotions are real and can control you.

And if being pissed because Big Stick says your 270 sucks doesn't roll off your back....then maybe it's time to disconnect.

If you have contra-facts lets see them.

I'm not sure where you came up with this 20 year figure. I've been discussion our condition across broad swaths of time. I mentioned school death back in the 1920's and charted murder rates back to the 1600's. For the average working man, life's never been better then it is in America, today. He is not just the 1%, he's the 0.1% when compared to all people across the depths of history.

The following chart is for England, but the same trend applies to their greatest former colony:

I experienced the exact same thing, stopped listening to the talking heads (even Fox News) and felt a genuine sense of relaxation. I moved to a small (2500 people) town six months ago and couldn't be happier. Life here is more like it was 25+ years ago and we LOVE it.

Losers like you, and this.........


Any of us who receive e-mail from large numbers of Americans can attest to the deteriorating education — including among those who attended college — in written English. In sophisticated commentary on websites as well as in e-mail, one encounters the most basic errors: “it’s” instead of “its”; “their” instead of “there”; “then” instead of “than”; etc. With tools such as spelling and grammar check and word processors, the quality of spelling and grammar in finish products is actually improving.

Most universities have become secular seminaries for the dissemination of leftism. Moreover, aside from indoctrination, students usually learn little. One can earn a B.A. in English at UCLA, for example, without having read a single Shakespeare play.English and English Literature are two separate degree's.

To the extent that American history is taught, beginning in high school and often earlier, American history is presented as the history of an immoral nation characterized by slavery, racism, colonialism, imperialism, economic exploitation, and militarism — not of a country that, more than any other, has been the beacon of freedom to mankind, and the country that has spent more treasure and spilled more blood to liberate other peoples than any other nation.Depends on the school.
In Littleton expect your kids to read John Locke

The End of Male and Female: Whatever one’s position on same-sex marriage, one must acknowledge that at the core of the argument for this redefinition of marriage is that gender doesn’t matter. Marriage is marriage and gender means nothing, the argument goes. So, too, whether children are raised by mother and father or two mothers or two fathers doesn’t matter. A father has nothing unique to offer a child that a mother can’t provide and vice versa.Yea, this is pure BS.
Fortunately it's rejected by all but the most radical

Why? Because — for the first time in recorded history — gender is regarded as meaningless. Indeed, increasingly gender doesn’t even exist; it’s merely a social construct imposed on children by parents and society based on the biological happenstance of their genitalia. When signing up for Facebook, one is offered nearly 60 options under “gender.” In various high schools across the country, boys are elected homecoming queen. A woman was recently kicked out of Planet Fitness for objecting to a man in the women’s locker room. She was accused of intolerance because the man said he felt that he was a woman.

The End of Right and Wrong: At least two generations of American young people have been taught that moral categories are nothing more than personal (or societal) preferences. Recently, an incredulous professor of philosophy wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times titled “Why Our Children Don’t Think There Are Moral Facts.” In it he noted, “Without fail, every value claim is labeled an opinion” (italics in original). This extends to assessing the most glaring of evils. Since the Nazis thought killing Jews was right, there is no way to know for sure whether it was wrong; it’s the Nazis’ opinion against that of the Jews and anyone else who objects. I have heard this sentiment from American high-school students — including many Jewish ones — for 30 years.

The End of Religion: There are no moral truths because there is no longer a religious basis for morality.Any of us who Just not true. Divine Command Theory is not a pathway to moral truths. In addition if you accept that at one time following The Law was moral, but at a later time it was not required to be moral,
you've already accepted moral relativism and a variance of morality across time. More than the Enlightenment, it was the Bible — especially the Hebrew Bible (which was one reason America’s Christians were different from most European Christians) that guided the Founders’ and other Americans’ values. No. A large portion of the Founding Fathers were deist.The term "separation of church as sate derived from Jefferson. Not any more. Instead of being guided by a code higher than themselves, Americans are taught to rely on their feelings to determine how to behave. Instead of being given moral guidance, children are asked, “How do you feel about it?”

The End of Beauty: Just as morality is subjective, so are beauty and excellence. There is no good or bad art or literature. You like Beethoven; I like rap. You like Shakespeare; I like Batman. “Street art” (a.k.a graffiti) is worthy of museum exhibition; paint thrown by an “artist” from atop a ladder onto a canvas is considered high art and fetches over $100 million; and a giant sculpture of a dog with lifted leg urinating adorns the front of the Orange County Museum of Art in California. Art always has been, and always will be, subjective. One of the reason we think old are is superior to modern art is "The survivor bias". An example is classical music. Today we only listen to music created by the best 1% of musicians from the classical era, and even than, only 10% of their music. Of course the top 0.1% of all that was created in that era is excellent.
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If you acknowledge that American society is in decay, it is your obligation to fight to undo it. If you can’t acknowledge that American society is in decay, you are providing proof that it is.

Parents are just as self centered at the kids we're bitching about. It's all about me. These are all little pieces to a big puzzle, glorified by the nightly news.

Is it me, or is society as a whole facing a bigger wrath of problems than ever before? I know for a fact that the day I stopped listening to talk radio and watching anything other than the local news that things seemed to mellow out. Call it burying my head in the sand, but damn man. Doesn't make sense to get pissed off about things that are totally out of my control.


It's like I said earlier, look at the pissing contests on this forum. Even this thread. They might be superficial topics (not this one), but emotions are real and can control you.

And if being pissed because Big Stick says your 270 sucks doesn't roll off your back....then maybe it's time to disconnect.

Seriously?! You have a chart dating back to the thirteenth century in BRITAIN and think it is relevant to this conversation? You have issues.

yes, first there needs to be a congregation of people, like a school or mall for instance. then there needs to be a shooter, and a weapon to use. then the shooter needs a proper motivation (in his own mind). and everyone of them are probably led into the violence based upon their own thinking, not somebody else's reason for being upset.

and of course first responders and tv camers are mandatory in the follow-up. then the anti-gun conversations begin. it's a pattern from beginning to end, for sure.

They can’t get any pussy. They take their frustrations out on other people.

Correct. Another loser male and an AR, a very familiar refrain. That's why reclassifying semiautos that accept detachable magazines as Class 3 is the most surgical, least restrictive solution to the problem. Separate these weapons from the losers.

Debbie Whatzername Schultz said it was the NRA's fault.

How do you get from your Fudd gun, a Remington 870, to an AR??

So now you want to classify 870's and revolvers as Class 3 weapons?