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Yes. It's dead.

Per federal law, you can sell any firearm made at home with or without a serial number. The law simply states you can't manufacture solely with the intent to sell. The trick is finding someone willing to buy a homebrew firearm.

It was a can (that with revisions is still in production) from a BIG name can maker that gave up the ghost and blew it's guts the length of a 100 yard range while on a .300 Win mag. A round the can was rated for. I wound up with some stitches as a memento. The issue was either a design or production flaw, depending on viewpoint. The can as manufactured now, is no longer made in the same manner. Some would say it is less expensive to produce now, and yet more reliable. I'd agree.

The thing is, back in '94 or so when the incident happened, the internals were simple AF. Sure the first two baffles were 3/16 (or so) thick but the rest were much thinner. Stamping sized thinner.

Not to hard to blank off some 1.500" dia 304 stainless for spacers, 9" or so of 304 .058 wall stainless and sumtin like 8 or so baffles and weld the stack together to make a pretty effective can good for .300 Magnums. It was this basic design I was referring to when I said it could retail for under $100. Again, lighter, more effective for size will cost you more.

As for why not look for investors? Because currently there is no market. With sales volume so low, prices need to be high in order to pay for salaries and capital expenses.

An AR-15 is an order of magnitude more difficult to manufacture than a basic centerfire rifle suppressor. And yet a rifle can be purchased for less than a basic centerfire suppressor, all due to the market for ARs being 1000s of times larger than the market for suppressors. Get a version of the hearing loss prevention bill passed, and prices will plummet.

P.S. But not to $20 for a decent can. That's crazy talk. Decent materials cost at least that much before any labor is involved,

I've used suppressors a bit (understatement), FYI, A top line rimfire suppressor here in NZ will set you back $90.00 NZ ($61.00 US). That includes our GST (Goods and Services Tax) at 15%. I'm talking top line stuff here, you can get them cheaper but (apart from rimfire suppressors that may last the distance) you need to keep away from cheaper stuff.

A top line rimfire magnum supressor (includes .17 Hornet, I've just bought one) is $190 NZ.

A top line centrefire (non-mag) will set you back around $460 NZ. A top line centrefire magnum is around $600 NZ.

The New Zealand technology that goes into suppressors is very good. I've fired many hundreds (maybe thousands) of rounds through mine using 270wsm, 300saum and 300winmag and never had a problem. And they are not big and heavy - 4" forward of the muzzle and circa 400grams weight. They have been great for my ears! Price is circa NZD400 for a good product. NZD/.68USD.

http://www.dpt.co.nz

So tell me, what would an over the barrel suppressor for a 308, and another for a 223, cost there?

I don't hold out much hope that they'll ever be deregulated.

I can read you know. An over the barrel suppressor tends to cost a bit more than a screw on the end. He wasn't specific in his statement so I asks for more specificity

In Pattaya Beach, I could buy a case of Carlsberg for $5.00.

Do you think that's what a case of Carlsberg was selling for in the U.S.?

NZ $460 would get you an overbarrel suppressor suitable for both.

http://www.silencer.net.nz/silencers-and-suppressors/compact-silencers/

Disclaimer - I have no financial interest in this company but have purchased from them.

I imagine if the bill did pass NZ manufactures and Europeans would tool up and export to the U.S.

I use a DPT brand over barrel suppressor on my Sako 85 .308 that cost roughly $240 USD. They're very well made and not too heavy. There are several other NZ made suppressors of good quality available. DPT exports a lot of suppressors to the U.K. so I'm sure they would be more than eager to export to the U.S.

You also have to take in to account the cost of threading the barrel to accept the suppressor. There are many rifle barrels that come already factory threaded though.