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Originally Posted by kingston
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It's always about penetration..


That’s what she said.


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Originally Posted by kingston
I shot this cow elk at 53 yards with a 7mm-08.

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LMAO at that one........!!!!


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Originally Posted by kingston
I shot this cow elk at 53 yards with a 7mm-08.

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Wait till he shows you his cow moose.

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Originally Posted by kingston
I shot this cow elk at 53 yards with a 7mm-08.

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It was packing out a cow elk when Trystan shot it. 😎


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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
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This guy elkslayer91 is quite an expert...
…at debating people who want to obfuscate facts with their non-truthful postings, insults, and attempts at degrading someone who simply made a posting to help a fellow hunter.

This pile of crap you guys turned this thread into is on you, not me.

I DID NOT START THIS CRAP.



Good Point...You should Stop Helping 😎


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Sorry to see the deterioration of the actual hunting pro's &con's. If you came my way I would be glad to buy you a cup of coffee & show you around where I hunt. Share some fire side harmony. I wish the best to all of you whether you've shot one elk or 50. Hesperus, Colorado, USA.

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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
You do realize someone who consistantly tags 300+ class Bulls probably does "know" how to Elk Hunt?


That all depends, which ranch do you hunt on? I know of guys who've killed 400-class bulls who know next to nothing about elk or elk hunting.

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No, it was not. 400 yards is not "long range" and the OP said he may have to shoot out to 400 which means anywhere from zero to 400 yards. As others have pointed out that usually means closer to zero than 400.
Ummm....The OP said, "400 and BEYOND. If you want to debate, you might want to start by being TRUTHFUL



Wow, you must've been hell on wheels in your high school drama club, but give me a break. Change the OP's parameters to "out to 500 yards " and not a damn thing I said above changes--it's still not "long range" and he's still more likely to get a shot closer to zero than 500. Being so far above the point of aim at mid-ranges as you suggest is at best a solution in search of a problem and at worst a stupid idea. In more ways than one.

But as long as we're going back to what the OP said, and reading it carefully, and making sure we're being TRUTHFUL, let me ask you this. When you said what I've quoted below, what were you thinking?


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...thus my reason to show the man, with facts, how flat the 7mm-08 can shoot and kill, without having to mess with adjustments, out to 400 yds…..when the boiler room target on a Bull elk has a diameter of sixteen (16) inches.



I know the bigger the target, the better it fits your argument in favor of the infinite point blank kill zone, but you did see where the OP said (twice) that he was hunting cows, right? You'd think that a guy who consistently put 300-class bulls on the ground would know that a cow is smaller than a bull, right? Or, were you just being "UNTRUTHFUL?"



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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
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Everything is bigger in Texas. Even the blowhards......
If it weren't for Texans spending money in your state, skiing and hunting, your state would be broke. Go blow that fact...

You giving Texicans a bad name...

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I been thinking about this 6 inch high at 100 yd thing. Is that how it is done in Texas?

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Right now I'm not able to carefully read every preceding post, but I did give this thread a scan. Did I miss the part where if I'm sitting still, glassing a hillside 400 yards away I can twist the elevation turret from my baseline zero to a 400 yard zero before the action starts and I need to shoot quickly as an elk passes between obstructions?

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It's just my opinion, but:

1. I don't think shooting quickly at 400 yards is a great idea, unless you want a good chance of a miss or a wounded animal.

2. Even if I would somehow not have one or two seconds to twist the dial, my rifle, sighted 1" high at 100 yds, is 16" low at 400 yds. That's precisely 4 MOA, which is 2 mil dots on my scope when at highest magnification.

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I was addressing the set up part.

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Originally Posted by MarineHawk
It's just my opinion, but:

1. I don't think shooting quickly at 400 yards is a great idea, unless you want a good chance of a miss or a wounded animal.

2. Even if I would somehow not have one or two seconds to twist the dial, my rifle, sighted 1" high at 100 yds, is 16" low at 400 yds. That's precisely 4 MOA, which is 2 mil dots on my scope when at highest magnification.


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Originally Posted by riverdog
I been thinking about this 6 inch high at 100 yd thing. Is that how it is done in Texas?


Hmm, No! I guess it works for hunting a ranch where 350”-370” class bulls are commonly seen on this one mountain side where yards have been established over time...It’s like “Point and Shoot” due to lack of time at 300-500 yards with the elk doing the boogie-fever all over the mountain. You need to be quick, real quick, on the gun. Time turning turrets will cost you a possible trophy bull.
Sooo, you come pre-set at 6” high and ready to Rock-n-Roll. LMAO 😂 😎


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Originally Posted by MarineHawk
It's just my opinion, but:

1. I don't think shooting quickly at 400 yards is a great idea, unless you want a good chance of a miss or a wounded animal.


Precisely. Especially a moving animal. Besides the fact that you're much more likely to have time to set up for the shot at that distance vs. at 100 or 150 yards.



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See, the thing about vanilla ice cream is, it serves as the perfect base. You can add chocolate sauce, caramel, or even hot fudge. Try that with chocolate ice cream and it’s too much chocolate.

Same thing if you go strawberry. Vanilla with sliced strawberries is so much better than strawberry ice cream. Now sure, you can get weird with cookie dough, rum raisin, or other exotic offerings, but that’s like ordering a mochyalatteFrappuccino with no foam but extra whip at Fourbucks. Totally unnecessary.

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...... You should stick to shooting tables.


Is it Table season already?


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WOW!!!! I see my thread got derailed yesterday while I was away. eek eek eek

I may be new to elk hunting, but I'm not new to shooting past 100 yards. I can assure you I'm not sighting my rifle in 6" high at 100. If I have time to use my range finder, I have time to dial or better yet, pick a hash mark. Out to 400 or a little more, I can simply use hold-over. It's not that hard to estimate 18 or 20 inches when you know the approx. size of your target. I've done it on deer many times and an elk is twice as big. I'm not gonna shoot at an animal past 300ish that I haven't ranged or otherwise know the distance. I have too much respect for the game to just shoot at anything I see and hope my rifle trajectory is "flat enough" to make a hit. I can only assume that the reason for using that method is based on not ranging and not knowing the distance.


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Which load would you use, assuming I may have to reach out to 400 or beyond?

Since everyone was making assumptions about the intent of this statement, I'll clear it up. I was asking about the 7mm-08 performance, retained energy and velocity at 400 and beyond for the 2 bullets I was considering. It had nothing to do with how to make a shot at that range. I assume if my bullet will perform at 400, it will be fine for closer range. And for the record, I hope I get a 40 yard shot, but I know I need to be prepared for 400.

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The concern with the TTSX would be whether it would open up at slower speeds out at 4-500. So I'd go with the Accubond.



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