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Originally Posted by Harry M
All the Manafort deal means is that Mueller has no intention of stopping the witch hunt until he and the swamp take Trump down.


Looks like Mueller's witch hunt bagged another witch. How many more to come?


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Originally Posted by Paddler
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All the Manafort deal means is that Mueller has no intention of stopping the witch hunt until he and the swamp take Trump down.


Looks like Mueller's witch hunt bagged another witch. How many more to come?


Let me know when the first evidence of Russian Collusion in the 2016 election is presented. Until then indulge yourself in a cup of STFU.


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Mueller's sole job is to find out what happened (with regards to Russian collusion) and follow all trails regardless of where they may lead.

This is not accurate. If you read the document by Rod Rosenstein that sets the parameters for the Mueller investigation it says that Mueller is to investigate any possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign and any related matters. It says nothing about investigating collusion by anyone outside the Trump campaign. Thus, Mueller is not empowered to investigate the Clinton campaign, DNC or others that worked with Russian sources to get dirt on Trump. Ol' Rod was pretty slick in the way he set this up.


You will note that the Rosenstein letter also directs the special Prosecutor's office to investigate "any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)".


Why is there even an investigation??? Because of bogus misinformation submitted to the FBI VIA the DNC and the media, which was fed the information by the FBI in order to obtain a FISA warrant....kinda crazy huh???....if the left is gonna condone this type of schitt, is it going to be ok for Trump to set up his own deep state??? Are you guys sure you wanna play this game with a guy like Trump??? Payback is a bitch and don't start crying when he starts shoving it up your backside without so much as a kiss...


"Why is there even an investigation??? Because of bogus misinformation submitted to the FBI VIA the DNC and the media, which was fed the information by the FBI in order to obtain a FISA warrant....kinda crazy huh???.."

Not quite as to why a Special Counsel was appointed.

The Special Counsel (Mueller) appointment in May 2017, followed a series of events that included Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and Comey's allegation that Trump asked him to drop an FBI investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. No fake news here, these are specific and verified events. Sure, the Special Counsel looked into other events, but the reason there was a Special Prosecutor appointed stemmed form Comey.

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Not quite as to why a Special Counsel was appointed.

The Special Counsel (Mueller) appointment in May 2017, followed a series of events that included Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and Comey's allegation that Trump asked him to drop an FBI investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. No fake news here, these are specific and verified events. Sure, the Special Counsel looked into other events, but the reason there was a Special Prosecutor appointed stemmed form Comey.


So Rosenstien is overseeing the Mueller investigation into firing Comey after he (Rosey) gave Trump a letter recommending firing Comey?

Gotcha.


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As pointed out so many times in the past: "WHERE are the crimes committed by Trump?" Not the crimes you leftist vermin believe are "related". Hell, if that is the standard, Bill and Hillary should be prosecuted for every hillbilly criminal act in the state of Arkansas. After all, hasn't slick Willie been sliding it into every trailer park princess in that state for years? Surely there are some "related" persons left behind as a result.

Again, I ask: Where are the crimes which DONALD J. TRUMP has committed?

You dumbass Marxist rats cannot point to a single crime. And yet, another communist loving socialist writer claimed in The Hill newspaper that Michael Cohen revealed evidence that Trump committed a campaign violation. Those of you with a brain will know that sealing a NDA with your own money (as Trump did) is NOT a campaign funding violation. Still, these despicable lefties and their chumps in mainstream society continue to make up laws to fit their agenda.

Mueller and team have wasted millions of tax dollars pursuing ANYTHING that might be able to distract from putting the Klintons and the Kenyan in jail, but what have they come up with?
"Related". Stupid bastards.


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Originally Posted by Paddler
....Of course, if Trump, et al, is found to have conspired with foreign adversaries to win the electoral college...


You do have one thing right, Piddler- Kavanuagh will be confirmed, but despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth from your friends in the pussy hats, his confirmation won't kill thousands of women.

As for the quote above, why would you detail the FISA court actions and those of the Kenyan Regime in trying to get Klinton elected? Trump is not the one who conspired with foreign agents, Susan Rice, the NSA, et al. Your dear Hillary did that, in collusion with the Magical Negro. Stop transferring DNC criminal acts onto Trump.


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"Why is there even an investigation??? Because of bogus misinformation submitted to the FBI VIA the DNC and the media, which was fed the information by the FBI in order to obtain a FISA warrant....kinda crazy huh???.."

Not quite as to why a Special Counsel was appointed.

The Special Counsel (Mueller) appointment in May 2017, followed a series of events that included Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and Comey's allegation that Trump asked him to drop an FBI investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. No fake news here, these are specific and verified events. Sure, the Special Counsel looked into other events, but the reason there was a Special Prosecutor appointed stemmed form Comey.


You mean the same James Comey that signed off on the warrant application for Carter Page? The same James Comey who knew the "dossier" was a paid for manufactured document that was leaked to the media in an effort to give it a little extra veracity....THAT JAMES COMEY??? The same James Comey that exonerated Hillary (which he legally had no right to do) even after he laid out a very damning case against her??? THAT JAMES COMEY???

Need more???

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The facade of Trump being a great businessman will be stripped away by this investigation. He will be exposed as linked to the Russian mafia, a money-laundering, lying, cheating, very-not-smart failure. He will be destroyed by the Mueller team. Not intentionally, of course, because Mueller is only seeking the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It's unfortunate for Trump that the truth will be his undoing. Once that happens, the cowardice displayed by today's Republican party will strip it of any shred of credibility or trustworthiness. They will lose the House this time around, the Senate and White House in 2020. Thirty-six percent of the population cannot hold power indefinitely.


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"Why is there even an investigation??? Because of bogus misinformation submitted to the FBI VIA the DNC and the media, which was fed the information by the FBI in order to obtain a FISA warrant....kinda crazy huh???.."

Not quite as to why a Special Counsel was appointed.

The Special Counsel (Mueller) appointment in May 2017, followed a series of events that included Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and Comey's allegation that Trump asked him to drop an FBI investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. No fake news here, these are specific and verified events. Sure, the Special Counsel looked into other events, but the reason there was a Special Prosecutor appointed stemmed form Comey.


You mean the same James Comey that signed off on the warrant application for Carter Page? The same James Comey who knew the "dossier" was a paid for manufactured document that was leaked to the media in an effort to give it a little extra veracity....THAT JAMES COMEY??? The same James Comey that exonerated Hillary (which he legally had no right to do) even after he laid out a very damning case against her??? THAT JAMES COMEY???

Need more???


If Comey or Clinton did anything illegal, then the Trump DOJ should initiate legal proceedings.

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Originally Posted by djs
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"Why is there even an investigation??? Because of bogus misinformation submitted to the FBI VIA the DNC and the media, which was fed the information by the FBI in order to obtain a FISA warrant....kinda crazy huh???.."

Not quite as to why a Special Counsel was appointed.

The Special Counsel (Mueller) appointment in May 2017, followed a series of events that included Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and Comey's allegation that Trump asked him to drop an FBI investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. No fake news here, these are specific and verified events. Sure, the Special Counsel looked into other events, but the reason there was a Special Prosecutor appointed stemmed form Comey.


You mean the same James Comey that signed off on the warrant application for Carter Page? The same James Comey who knew the "dossier" was a paid for manufactured document that was leaked to the media in an effort to give it a little extra veracity....THAT JAMES COMEY??? The same James Comey that exonerated Hillary (which he legally had no right to do) even after he laid out a very damning case against her??? THAT JAMES COMEY???

Need more???


If Comey or Clinton did anything illegal, then the Trump DOJ should initiate legal proceedings.

Why do you think they have not?


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Not quite as to why a Special Counsel was appointed.

The Special Counsel (Mueller) appointment in May 2017, followed a series of events that included Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and Comey's allegation that Trump asked him to drop an FBI investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. No fake news here, these are specific and verified events. Sure, the Special Counsel looked into other events, but the reason there was a Special Prosecutor appointed stemmed form Comey.


So Rosenstien is overseeing the Mueller investigation into firing Comey after he (Rosey) gave Trump a letter recommending firing Comey?

Gotcha.




Your facts are correct , Barry, but you are overlooking the fact that Trump told a National TV audience that “ he had the Russia investigation in mind when he fired Comey”. If he had just gave the reasons Rosenstein used in his letter, Obstruction would not be in play. Unlike “ collusion “, obstruction IS a well defined crime and the fact that arrow is in Muellers quiver can be laid to Trump shooting his mouth off.

Neither Paddler and his buddies, nor the most ardent Trumpkins are going to be dancing in the streets when Mueller finishes his investigation. The most Trump is likely to suffer is some embarrassment, assuming he is capable of feeling that.


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I’m not DJS but I’ll give my opinion....... there are some Blue State Republicans in Congress who do NOT want to have to defend what their opponents will label a witch hunt.


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
Your facts are correct , Barry, but you are overlooking the fact that Trump told a National TV audience that “ he had the Russia investigation in mind when he fired Comey”. If he had just gave the reasons Rosenstein used in his letter, Obstruction would not be in play. Unlike “ collusion “, obstruction IS a well defined crime and the fact that arrow is in Muellers quiver can be laid to Trump shooting his mouth off.

Neither Paddler and his buddies, nor the most ardent Trumpkins are going to be dancing in the streets when Mueller finishes his investigation. The most Trump is likely to suffer is some embarrassment, assuming he is capable of feeling that.


It's not "collusion". It's "conspiracy", which is well defined and many people have already been indicted for it. Written by Taft:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_against_the_United_States

My prediction is that more people, ie, some in the Trump orbit, will be indicted. Obstruction is a foregone conclusion.

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2020 belongs to Trump and there’s NOTHING you can do about it.


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Originally Posted by deflave
2020 belongs to Trump and there’s NOTHING you can do about it.



You're not going to like how this turns out.


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2020 belongs to Trump and there’s NOTHING you can do about it.



You're not going to like how this turns out.

Your desperation makes me all tingly.

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Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by deflave
2020 belongs to Trump and there’s NOTHING you can do about it.



You're not going to like how this turns out.

I’d say flave gonna be liking it more than you.

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Originally Posted by djs

If Comey or Clinton did anything illegal, then the Trump DOJ should initiate legal proceedings.


You don't think a special investigator should crawl as far up their (and all of their associates) asses as they have with Trump???? Maybe LOOKING for a crime??? Is that how it's supposed to work???

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Originally Posted by Paddler
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2020 belongs to Trump and there’s NOTHING you can do about it.



You're not going to like how this turns out.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/strzo...y-fired-demoted-or-resigned_2624607.html Go to the bottom of this article for a list of names.

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Originally Posted by Toddly
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2020 belongs to Trump and there’s NOTHING you can do about it.



You're not going to like how this turns out.

Your desperation makes me all tingly.


Probly a stroke.


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