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I don't know that things ever were fuzzy, I'm thinking diabolical. I can just visualize every few years the guys in engineering getting together with the guys in the shop and plotting future confusion. The meanest thing they did was to never let the sales and marketing people in on it, so there is no documentation in catalogs.

Looking forward to LBK's follow up pics.

Drifting a bit, but, still PE, DE talk...

Welp David, you may want to book a flight to Maine for some edification.

Misc. tidbits, opinions & thoughts to be sorted thru and/or substantiated;
- 99PE, 99DE, 110PE, 110 LH PE = ~1500 total
-The DE had East & West Trees also two different size scenes
and three different finishes
-The PE has two different scenes and two finishes
-Have seen one PE blued
-early PE/DE went to Germany. They got behind so later ones went to Japan

In conversation with David's contact Don May, who had a Marlin engraved in Germany by Gustav Kirchner in the 60's, Kirchner claims he was one of three German engravers doing work for Savage at the time.
That may explain some of the differences in patterns, styles and execution of the engraving.

Pictures added to the first post and here





And here are the two together.

NIB 99 CE and the DE that I bought yesterday. One more to go and that is the PE. Already in the works.

YOU know that is exactly what I will do.

I would like to see those. I think I know who they belong to. If he doesn't want his name in the open forum PM me with the answer.
John Allen had quite a collection of DE's that he sold to some guys in Texas. I asked John if he would ask them if I could contact them but never heard anything else.

Dave, diabolical is a definite possibly.

I will say that I like the execution on the rifle(s) depicted, and the wood is as nice as one could ever rightfully respect on a factory rifle, semi-custom or not. Most of me likes them, a lot. I just can't get past the Monte Carlo stocks- but that is not a reflection on anything but myself. (I realize the utility of the high comb for scope use, for those who gotta have a scope...) That is the main reason that if I saw one at a show I would run and get the Savage guys I'm with to alert them and not buy it myself.

I hear ya gnoahhh......

Me thinks I owe U so many lessons in life:

1. Spiced Rum......got me off the beer, gluten free baby......morning wood....I know TMI!

2. You can't own em all......but U can own em all once .......very wise!

3. Unless U gonna scope.....U don't want a high Monte Carlo Deal! Tru dat.

4. A sahweeet 99 E in 303 in 1920 era pencil thin barrel is da bees knees! ( a 300 can be also if you chop some barrel) IMO.

5 U don't really NEED a scope!

6. It ain't cool 2 B a troll!

U DA BOMB!

I got one out of six right.

I was told that there were only 13 rifles that were blued. I saw one on Saturday and if you saw a different one, that's two. The one I saw was also in .284.

The "east" vs "west" is actually conifer/pine trees versus deciduous trees, as far as I know.

Thought JA had told me once there were 12 blued PE's, but not sure how accurate my memory or his research was.

Traded a M70 for a 284 DE a while back.Gaudy like a CE,so out they went.They look like what Vito would hunt with on "The Soprano's".Still a post-mil no matter what they do to it. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../6430035/re-de-284-came-home#Post6430035

Long beard king

Your photos finally loaded on my pathetic internet.

WOW!

U must B most pleased. Well done!

Well done Steve! Even though You've tripped over to the dark side LBK, with blingy post-mils, formed cases, and all (..just a short stumble to tuning triggers now..), You are reaffirming the Savage collector's axiom for all of us, "never say never"!

Done tripping. I had the CE for quite some time. There is no sense having one without the other two. Now the DE and next is the PE. I have drawn the line in the sand. Triggers are for tinkerbells.

Thanks. I m always pleased when I find one I have been wanting badly for quite some time.

Very pretty DE Stephen. W/o going and finding mine because I don't remember, are the sling studs on the DE factory?

Yes. 1970 Savage catalog and page 95 and 96 in Royal's book both show them The catalog mentions them as well,

Hey Steve,
Are you coming to the Albany show this month so we can get confused together?? Hope so.
Tom