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Was she 'nice' ? If she wasn't, you are the first guy ever, to not pick a "nice, fat cow". I always wondered how guys could tell how nice one is, and if they could also tell how to avoid the bitchy ones...... Cow elk are like cattle. The high headed ones are C U Next TuesdayS
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huntsman,
Have noticed the same sort of thing when somebody shoots a forkhorn mule deer. They're always "fat forkhorns." Apparently nobody has ever killed a skinny forkhorn, though I have seen a few here and there, including in pickup beds.
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huntsman,
Have noticed the same sort of thing when somebody shoots a forkhorn mule deer. They're always "fat forkhorns." Apparently nobody has ever killed a skinny forkhorn, though I have seen a few here and there, including in pickup beds. Truer words have never been spoken!
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huntsman,
Have noticed the same sort of thing when somebody shoots a forkhorn mule deer. They're always "fat forkhorns." Apparently nobody has ever killed a skinny forkhorn, though I have seen a few here and there, including in pickup beds. The fat, "dry" doe/cow is another good one....
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143 ELD-X. Instead of a nice fat cow, I almost wrote that I had the pick of the litter. Two elk stood by the fallen one while the others started to bunch-up and trot off. They soon followed.
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huntsman,
Have noticed the same sort of thing when somebody shoots a forkhorn mule deer. They're always "fat forkhorns." Apparently nobody has ever killed a skinny forkhorn, though I have seen a few here and there, including in pickup beds. That right there is a noshitter! LOL
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Pat,
Maybe the fat, dry doe and the fat forkhorn should get together and have some fat fawns....
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That's why I like at least 20x on a hunting rifle...really get in there are see the condition of the milkery.
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What if the one you pick out as a nice fat dry cow identifies as being a d***head skinny forkhorn? Who are we to impose our preconceived view of their gender? Is this when the .270 is more socially acceptable than the Creedmoor, or are they equally appropriate?
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One should never assume a rifle's chambering. That is socially unacceptable.
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huntsman,
Have noticed the same sort of thing when somebody shoots a forkhorn mule deer. They're always "fat forkhorns." Apparently nobody has ever killed a skinny forkhorn, though I have seen a few here and there, including in pickup beds. Or my favorite.... I shot a 3 year old spike that wasn't ever going to be more than a spike buck.
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That's why I like at least 20x on a hunting rifle...really get in there are see the condition of the milkery. :Grin:
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Pat,
Maybe the fat, dry doe and the fat forkhorn should get together and have some fat fawns.... Do those beget "decent" bucks?
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I just shot an elk with the 6.5 creedmoore 1/12/19. I shot an antelope with it at the beginning of the season. I had a late season cow tag and wanted to try the 6.5 cm. The antelope was shot with the Hornady eldx and I thought it came apart to easy on the small animal. I used a Swift scirroco on the elk. It's dead but no reaction for quite a while 400 yard shot and no indication I hit it. Glad I was in the open instead of timber I will never use the 6.5 cm on elk again. Just my opinion. It kills them but not what I would consider a decent elk cartridge. I'm back to the 7 mag for elk killing. FYI the bullet entered just behind the shoulder and exited just in front of the off side diaphragm. Elk went about 50-75 yards but I thought I missed. No reaction. Glad I went to check for a blood trail. Very similar performance to a .223 on deer in my experience.
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Here's Craig Boddington's take on the use of the 6.5 CM on big game, in a recent blog on Wholesale Hunter:
Overall Impressions… and Concerns
"The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a fine cartridge for medium-range work on deer-sized game, and it does its work with very mild recoil. I wish I’d performed a bit better when I joined the Creedmoor Club, but it wasn’t the cartridge and for sure I will use it again. However, the incredible hype surrounding the cartridge right now concerns me. It is not a dragon slayer, and as good as it is for long-range target shooting, it lacks both energy and bullet weight to be an ideal long-range hunting cartridge. At normal hunting ranges I am convinced it is not the equal of the .270 Winchester, and it is certainly not a .30-caliber. If I change my mind I’ll let you know!"
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Elk went about 50-75 yards but I thought I missed. No reaction. Glad I went to check for a blood trail. Very similar performance to a .223 on deer in my experience. 180* Different than my experience with a .223 on deer.
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I just shot an elk with the 6.5 creedmoore 1/12/19. I shot an antelope with it at the beginning of the season. I had a late season cow tag and wanted to try the 6.5 cm. The antelope was shot with the Hornady eldx and I thought it came apart to easy on the small animal. I used a Swift scirroco on the elk. It's dead but no reaction for quite a while 400 yard shot and no indication I hit it. Glad I was in the open instead of timber I will never use the 6.5 cm on elk again. Just my opinion. It kills them but not what I would consider a decent elk cartridge. I'm back to the 7 mag for elk killing. FYI the bullet entered just behind the shoulder and exited just in front of the off side diaphragm. Elk went about 50-75 yards but I thought I missed. No reaction. Glad I went to check for a blood trail. Very similar performance to a .223 on deer in my experience. People sling an arrow and an animal is recovered within that distance, never complain. JS. It may not flatten game, but kills them dead. If I want a solid WHACK and blood trail, I would use a 338, 358 with 225 grain, or a 9.3 with 250 or 286gr. Just me. No perfect round for everything, but a good bullet thru vitals, does the deed w/o regard to what launches it.
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Here's Craig Boddington's take on the use of the 6.5 CM on big game, in a recent blog on Wholesale Hunter:
Overall Impressions… and Concerns
"The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a fine cartridge for medium-range work on deer-sized game, and it does its work with very mild recoil. I wish I’d performed a bit better when I joined the Creedmoor Club, but it wasn’t the cartridge and for sure I will use it again. However, the incredible hype surrounding the cartridge right now concerns me. It is not a dragon slayer, and as good as it is for long-range target shooting, it lacks both energy and bullet weight to be an ideal long-range hunting cartridge. At normal hunting ranges I am convinced it is not the equal of the .270 Winchester, and it is certainly not a .30-caliber. If I change my mind I’ll let you know!" I never liked Bodington until this, now I like him about the same as Mule Deer. If JB would write something about the 222 mag, he would be my favorite. Hint...
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