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Shinbone,
Thanks for posting a picture of the Zeiss V4 mounted on your rifle, you probably saved me money since I planned on using that same scope on a M70 300 Win mag and I don't like having a scope bell that far up from the barrel. I have a Kimber montana 270WSM and I guess I put a NF SHV 3-10x42 on it .
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Oldelkhunter - That big of a gap between the objective and the barrel does look a little ridiculous.
Also, not to hijack my own thread, but . . . I've been lusting after a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. How are you liking yours?
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Oldelkhunter - Not to hijack my own thread, but . . . I've been lusting after a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. How are you liking yours? I will have owned it for 2 weeks this saturday. It appears to be very well made, if it was shot before it was sparingly. I have to scope it and take it to the range to see what I purchased.
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Lots of feelings being tossed around here ... Schott glass doesnt always impress me....even my coffee pot has schott glass. http://imgur.com/uZJo0jqGood stuff man! That is sig line worthy. To the OP - those kahles cl’s are outstanding scopes. Please pm me if you decide you want to sell or trade them.
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To the OP - those kahles cl’s are outstanding scopes. Please pm me if you decide you want to sell or trade them. The Kahles CL scopes are indeed outstanding. When I bought them a dozen years ago at half price, I told myself these scopes would last the rest of my life. I knew about laser rangefinders and dialable scopes, but never thought that stuff would appeal to me. People change, including old ossified dudes, like me, I guess. I will be hanging onto the Kahles scopes for the foreseeable future. I know Kahles offers more features, nowadays, but no way could I afford the more modern Kahles scopes.
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Oldelkhunter - Not to hijack my own thread, but . . . I've been lusting after a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. How are you liking yours? I will have owned it for 2 weeks this saturday. It appears to be very well made, if it was shot before it was sparingly. I have to scope it and take it to the range to see what I purchased. Please keep us updated on how she shoots. When they shoot good, it is hard to beat a Kimber Montana.
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jwp, That’s a strong statement, and I suppose we’d need to define “better”. I’m neither anti-Tract, nor a Tract fanboy, so I approach the brand more inquisitively than anything. In my opinion “better” means mechanical function and reliability first and foremost, with optical performance rating somewhere in the Top 5 of important attributes. I think it has been established here on 24HCF that the Toric has superb glass for the price. What remains a question mark in my mind is the mechanical function, robustness, and durability of the scope. Buying one and testing it thoroughly would help, but still would only speak to (1) sample of one model of Toric. I’m not even sure if they ship to Canada I know of a couple guys on here that have a sizeable round count, hard use, and a lot of dialing on their Toric, but again, the sample size of those reports remains too small to make any generalized determination about the scope lineup. How much dialing, carrying time/rough use, and what approximate round count do you have on your scope? What rifle is it mounted on? Thanks for the additional info. Everything that I’ve experienced with my 3X15X50 Toric has been positive. I bought mine in 2018 mounted it and zeroed it in. Adjustments were precise and accurate and the glass is abosolutely outstanding. I have seen nothing to negative about the scope. No I don’t have an endurance test to prove it but I’d not hesitate to buy another one. It worked perfectly for me this hunting season.
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Shinbone,
Thanks for posting a picture of the Zeiss V4 mounted on your rifle, you probably saved me money since I planned on using that same scope on a M70 300 Win mag and I don't like having a scope bell that far up from the barrel. I have a Kimber montana 270WSM and I guess I put a NF SHV 3-10x42 on it . The V4 doesn’t have to be mounted that high!
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The V4 doesn’t have to be mounted that high! That's true and a good point, but . . . I am a big guy with a long neck. I mount the scope farther forward than what is shown in this photo to keep it out of my eyebrow, necessitating the higher mount so the ocular will clear the scope base.
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The V4 doesn’t have to be mounted that high! That's true and a good point, but . . . I am a big guy with a long neck. I mount the scope farther forward than what is shown in this photo to keep it out of my eyebrow, necessitating the higher mount so the ocular will clear the scope base. oh ok, that explains it .
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Shinbone,
Thanks for posting a picture of the Zeiss V4 mounted on your rifle, you probably saved me money since I planned on using that same scope on a M70 300 Win mag and I don't like having a scope bell that far up from the barrel. I have a Kimber montana 270WSM and I guess I put a NF SHV 3-10x42 on it . The V4 doesn’t have to be mounted that high! Thanks for that pic, what height talleys?
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Nightforce SHV c584 . That’s too easy....
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NightForce SHV 4-14x56 ForcePlex reticle LNIB for $835 shipped in the classifieds. I couldn’t resist. 😎
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Oldelkhunter - That big of a gap between the objective and the barrel does look a little ridiculous.
Also, not to hijack my own thread, but . . . I've been lusting after a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. How are you liking yours? Just a little? How about way ridiculous. There's absolutely no need to mount that scope that damn high. I don't care who you are, unless you like a chin weld on the stock or shooting from the hip. I'd pull that one piece picatinny off and throw a set of Talley lightweights on that EW. Do that rifle some justice man. The lows would work so much better and save you some weight in the process too.. Just sayin..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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What’s a chin weld? Is that a shot at people who have chinitus?
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Double chin or turkey neck will get you there...😎
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Thank You . Perfect fit better then I expected with that scope and rifle combo.
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