I've been a believer in Lyman manuals for a long time, but sometimes in some of those old manuals they leave me scratching my head. Lump 170 and 180 grain under one heading and claim the the same velocity for both with the same charges? Extrapolation/guesswork filled a lot of the holes they hadn't the time/budget (or inclination) to actually research, I suppose.
Oh well, Nebraska, Kansas; 170, 180-grain bullets - uh, what's the big difference?! Close enough (just kidding of course)
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Looks like 8-10 grains of Unique with 173gr cast, gas-checked bullet would make a fun, cheap plinking load. I've got an unopened 8lb-er of Unique. Also, wonder why with the cast, Lyman moved up to the faster powders (2400 and IMR 4227)
I was in grammar school when the 99 first caught my eye. It belonged to the father of a buddy. His father has passed away but I still know Pete and he still has that EG in 300. That was back in the late 60s and in all those years I never heard the 303 celebrated as much as it has been on this thread. Cool, very cool. Keep it up!
"The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"
I was in grammar school when the 99 first caught my eye. It belonged to the father of a buddy. His father has passed away but I still know Pete and he still has that EG in 300. That was back in the late 60s and in all those years I never heard the 303 celebrated as much as it has been on this thread. Cool, very cool. Keep it up!
That's because the 12 of us, in the whole wide world, that really love them, are all here!
I was in grammar school when the 99 first caught my eye. It belonged to the father of a buddy. His father has passed away but I still know Pete and he still has that EG in 300. That was back in the late 60s and in all those years I never heard the 303 celebrated as much as it has been on this thread. Cool, very cool. Keep it up!
That's because the 12 of us, in the whole wide world, that really love them, are all here!
unless you dirty dozen all have deep pockets Joe, there must be more that love them as they aren't being given away on Gunbroker etc.....at least any with good condition.
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Also, wonder why with the cast, Lyman moved up to the faster powders (2400 and IMR 4227)
Because a generation ago people still believed that fast(er) powders were totally necessary for cast bullet accuracy. With small-ish capacity cases like the .303 and .30-30, medium and slow burning powders are adapted quite nicely to cast bullet shooting, a fact not generally conceded before several pioneers made it their business to debunk that wive's tale. Not so true with larger cartridges like the '06 where small quantities of slow burners would induce dangerous episodes and normal charges of those powders would spit the bullets into the bore with horrendous results in the areas of leading and accuracy. So to keep cast bullets running at or below their limits of elasticity, faster powders are required in larger cases. That, Dear Hearts, is why the .30-30 and similar cartridges make for ideal cast bullet shooters.
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Since acquiring the 303 I've loaded several powders with my 195 gr gas check including Unique which gave the best Chrono string of all but have settled on 21.0 grs of 4227 for its better accuracy..Velocity from the 26" bbl is 1410 plenty IMO without pushing the envelope...I'm sizing .311 as the bore slugged .310..and read where all 303 bore dia are.308 must have a bastard child !
38-55 and 303
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The 303 Savage works great with a cast bullet. Took this 6-pointer in November with a 173 grain gas-checked bullet at 100 yards. Started to cast last summer and my goal was to take a buck with a bullet that I cast. 1920 1899H or 99F ... whichever it is
A quick look at the Barnes site shows the bullets under "Originals". Catalog #30360 190 grain flat point for the .30-30 Winchester. So I think they would suit the .303 just fine. They are a good looking bullet. How they perform i.e. jacket thickness who knows.
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