Sure looks to the average guy on the street, that Trump is slowly caving. Sure do not see where he is gaining anything. Maybe one of you folks with better foresight could explain hs way of thinking?
Don't fall for the mainstream media spin. Trump has Peelosi boxed into a corner and she is too stupid to figure it out. He has offered numerous deals since the shutdown began. Peelosi said $1. P said it was immoral. P said no money unless you open government. P sai pay the workers first. P said no SOTU. So now Trump opens government for a 3 week period with the specter of another shutdown or evoking the "national security" declaration. If the Dems don't act in "good faith" during the next 21 days (which I suspect they will not) Trump has no other decision to make. Trump will use this against them. So should every Republican in office. Remember: to a Democrat, "bipartisanship" is when they get 90% of what they want.
Trump didn't "cave"- he re-set the "rules" and is in command for the Feb. 15th decision. The ball is in the Democrat court and a wide crack has formed within their caucus.
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My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
So he either folded or he lied,,I say folded like a cheap suit.
"President Donald Trump says parts of the government will stay shut as long as Democrats refuse to build more barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border, seemingly dashing hope for a Christmas miracle that would soon allow several departments to reopen and employees to return to work.
Asked when the government would reopen, Trump said: "I can't tell you when the government's going to be open. I can tell you it's not going to be open until we have a wall or fence, whatever they'd like to call it."
Sure looks to the average guy on the street, that Trump is slowly caving. Sure do not see where he is gaining anything. Maybe one of you folks with better foresight could explain hs way of thinking?
Hmmm... fed employees paid. SOTU given and out of the way, no longer a bargaining chip. Forcing the Democrats to cut a deal or the wall gets built with constitutional executive powers anyways. Do the Democrats want something out of the wall getting built or not? They have three weeks to decide. We should consult with curdog about how badly Trumptard played his hand here... it is REALLY REALLY bad for Trumptard. He has no idea what he is doing!
They're on the same page, but have different reasons for wanting mesicans to come here. Legally or not. A 5 billion dollar bandaid was never going to address the problem.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
I'll throw out the "wisdom" of those who have never negotiated a substantial deal, that meant anything bigger than a (small) hill of beans. Trump is putting himself in a position that he's not the obstinate one, Chucky and Nancy are the ones that are hard to get along with. Heck the democraps have voted twice not to pay those that need the money, NOT TRUMP. Trump comes off as the one that is willing to cross the aisle and Chuck and Nancy are the pricks that won't do anything to help. Trump hasn't lost anything and has positioned himself to get 3 more weeks to come out on top with Chucky and Nancy again looking like they are obstinate obstructionists, if they don't come around. Far as I can tell Trump has lost nothing and positioned himself to be the winner, because, either way he still has the fall back of the emergency order after he's proved to America that the democrats are losers. For Trump it's WIN, WIN!!!
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