Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So the “Art of the Deal” is to cave?

I agree, workers need paid for sure. Just wish I could see Trumps bigger plan is all.

P.S. MEGA CHESS, I like the way SharpGuy thinks.

Then whats all the commotion about?

This. It’s a good move.

Jmo

If Trump was alone in the forest and he spoke would he still be wrong?

Critical thinking is hard...

Don't fall for the mainstream media spin. Trump has Peelosi boxed into a corner and she is too stupid to figure it out. He has offered numerous deals since the shutdown began. Peelosi said $1. P said it was immoral. P said no money unless you open government. P sai pay the workers first. P said no SOTU.
So now Trump opens government for a 3 week period with the specter of another shutdown or evoking the "national security" declaration.
If the Dems don't act in "good faith" during the next 21 days (which I suspect they will not) Trump has no other decision to make. Trump will use this against them. So should every Republican in office. Remember: to a Democrat, "bipartisanship" is when they get 90% of what they want.

Trump didn't "cave"- he re-set the "rules" and is in command for the Feb. 15th decision. The ball is in the Democrat court and a wide crack has formed within their caucus.

If trump had on edible underware, would ya?

Trump is fighting the swamp, almost single handedly.

No one else who touts to be a R or a conservative could do what he's done, or is doing. What a bunch of cry babies.

Is that why he caved? No help?

Wake up bro. Retreat and fight another day.

The 800,000 feds better have a savings/ cost cutting plan for Feb 15.

So he did get ass pounded?

So he either folded or he lied,,I say folded like a cheap suit.

"President Donald Trump says parts of the government will stay shut as long as Democrats refuse to build more barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border, seemingly dashing hope for a Christmas miracle that would soon allow several departments to reopen and employees to return to work.

Asked when the government would reopen, Trump said: "I can't tell you when the government's going to be open. I can tell you it's not going to be open until we have a wall or fence, whatever they'd like to call it."

Hmmm... fed employees paid. SOTU given and out of the way, no longer a bargaining chip. Forcing the Democrats to cut a deal or the wall gets built with constitutional executive powers anyways. Do the Democrats want something out of the wall getting built or not? They have three weeks to decide. We should consult with curdog about how badly Trumptard played his hand here... it is REALLY REALLY bad for Trumptard. He has no idea what he is doing!

yes

He has 1 chance left.

They're on the same page, but have different reasons for wanting mesicans to come here. Legally or not. A 5 billion dollar bandaid was never going to address the problem.

I want the concession stand for this thread.

I'll throw out the "wisdom" of those who have never negotiated a substantial deal, that meant anything bigger than a (small) hill of beans. Trump is putting himself in a position that he's not the obstinate one, Chucky and Nancy are the ones that are hard to get along with. Heck the democraps have voted twice not to pay those that need the money, NOT TRUMP. Trump comes off as the one that is willing to cross the aisle and Chuck and Nancy are the pricks that won't do anything to help. Trump hasn't lost anything and has positioned himself to get 3 more weeks to come out on top with Chucky and Nancy again looking like they are obstinate obstructionists, if they don't come around. Far as I can tell Trump has lost nothing and positioned himself to be the winner, because, either way he still has the fall back of the emergency order after he's proved to America that the democrats are losers. For Trump it's WIN, WIN!!!

Trump opened up the government so the 800,000 federal employees could get paid, not Pelosi. Hope he hammers this home.