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As long as you stay out of bat caves.... https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/195/8/1144/816583Aerosol transmission has been implied in 4 reports of human rabies cases and documented in experimental work with animals. In all instances when aerosol transmission was cited as the route of human infection, more plausible explanations may exist. In the 2 cases involving spelunkers working in Frio Cave there were notations of direct contact between the spelunkers and the bats, although no documented bites were reported..... Constantine documented aerosol transmission of rabies virus to experimental animals in Frio Cave. This Texas cave, which is home to 110 million bats, was the location where 2 humans were believed to have contracted rabies via aerosol. Constantine was able to demonstrate transmission of rabies virus to animals housed in cages that excluded all but cave atmosphere. Rabies virus was isolated from samples collected via air condensation techniques that were used to monitor the atmosphere in this cave.A well-known concern among spelunkers and cave researchers here in Texas. IIRC the researchers routinely get rabies shots beforehand, I dunno about the spelunkers. Nope. From your own quote, which you somehow left out: Nonbite transmission of rabies is very rare, and aerosol transmission has never been well documented in the natural environment. The known pathogenesis of rabies and available data suggest that all or nearly all cases of human rabies attributable to bats were transmitted by bat bites that were minimized or unrecognized by the patients. [Gibbons RV. Cryptogenic rabies, bats, and the question of aerosol transmission. Ann Emerg Med. May 2002;39:528-536.]
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Didn't read the whole thing, OK, so skip the rabies shots, if you're caged up in a bat cave the rabbit is doomed but you ain't <"shrug">
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I believe there was one documented case of a bat getting into a home, and a boy contracted the disease, even though he was not bitten. The guess was a tiny bit of spittle from the bat entered the boy's mouth or eyes, and that was enough.
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I haven't researched it in quite a few years, but I would not discount the possibility of aerosol transmission. Most everyone who works with and handles wild mammals these days is vaccinated for rabies. There is a very effective vaccine for humans these days.
Back in the late Pleistocene, while I was in grad school, a number of us were vaccinated--mostly because we all worked on each other's projects, some of which involved catching, marking, and otherwise handling animals that would be released ,and mostly not seen or handled again.
The old duck serum vaccine was awful. Some people were affected worse than others, but apparently you could write off about three days of being good for nothing. The human diploid cell vaccine (which I got while it was still being evaluated) was like getting shot of distilled water. The last time I had my blood tested, the titre was still way above the minimum value needed to protect against rabies.
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