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Ashlyn Boyd 22, Perry, Mich.

A lot of Boyd’s friends don’t know she voted for Trump. Most supported Clinton, she says. But Boyd, who went to cosmetology school during high school, had other concerns. Obamacare looked good on paper but was unaffordable for her family. Her three-year-old son will soon be in school, and she opposes Common Core. She thinks Trump’s idea of term limits is an “amazing thing,” and she likes the idea of tariffs on companies in America that send out their products for cheaper labor. “I don’t think all people who voted for Hillary are liberal snobs. I am 100% for gay marriage. That is not why I voted for Trump,” she says. And, she adds, “it is awesome that a woman successfully ran Trump’s campaign.”

I was talking about voters and the two I named were from Time mag. of all places.

Then you would have your Perot scenario. We could never be so lucky.

You've got a strong point with grass roots conversions.

I was willing to be convinced after he got the nomination that Trump was who y’all thought he was . He seemed to me to be a more or less typical NYC blowhard with enough Liberal tendencies to be scary to a single issue voter like me.

I’ve stated several times on this forum that getting all wrapped up in the political intrigues of BOTH major parties is akin to paying your entry fee for a rigged contest. The only way our individual votes can have any impact is to pick out ONE issue and vote based on that.You should not choose taxes or deficit spending as your issue. In fact, you should not pick any issue that can be quantified since both sides can make numbers dance to their tune.

The 2A or Abortion make make excellent single issues since they are fairly clear cut, at least in comparison most other issues.

I chose the 2A as my issue decades ago and have never wavered on it. Cruz had the strongest 2A credentials of all the 2016 candidates so I supported him in the primaries. It really is that simple.

So, your FIL can find something about Trump to make him start supporting him. Everything I’ve seen and heard from Trump points to my original concerns about him being justified, so I’ll stay with my original assessment.

Those of us who were adults in the ‘ sixties and saw the pendulum swinging ever more in the direction of outright confiscation of firearms will have a different mindset than those who only know of it as history taught by right wingers. Thankfully, that movement was reversed at the State levels....no thanks to the Feds.

Any nudge of the pendulum back in the wrong direction..like bump stocks and red flag laws.... should result in outrage by the gun community.

All I hear is MAGA.

Could Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez be the death of the Democrat party?

Lord God I hope so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A O-C is staying in the spotlight, drawing attention with the willing complicity of the MSM.

If she just towed the mainstream DNC line she would disappear from the public eye the same as any other Junior Member of Congress.

A saving grace of American politics in my lifetime has been that most twenty-somethings do not vote, A O-C will definitely increase that voting margin to some degree. Her job until November of 2020 is gonna be to stay in the spotlight saying the exact same sort of things she has been.

Never forget Hilary actually won the popular vote in this last go-round.

How was Trump's victory a rigged contest ?

Bill and Hillary Cllinton ended the D party. It has kept the name but is not the same. It has since been the misnamed communist party.

Perot drew from both sides and so will the Starbucks guy if he runs. Only 40% of the electorate like Trump. Y’all need to keep that foremost in your minds. That number has wavered very little in the last two years. Give people an alternative to Trump or the likely Dem nominee, like Shultz and well have a POTUS elected with only 43% of the popular vote.....like Clinton iirc.

I blame the left wing media for giving Hilary the popular vote. Would not have happened in a fair fight.

The free-ride crowd is huge but they do not yet have the numbers to win a fair fight.

She’s enjoying her 15 minutes of fame right now & the MSM loves her because she’s never shy about spouting something ridiculous. Notice how she wore bright red lipstick and a tight low cut top to the SOTU speech, classic “look at me” attention whoring meant to make use of the fact she’s young & got big boobs, basically acting no different than any other 20 something girl ready to hit the clubs looking for attention on Saturday night.

It’ll take a year or so but she’ll fall by the wayside because she’s an intellectual midget. The MSM can only cover try to hide that for so long before they’ll tire of it.

Lay Trump aside temporarily. Think R party or D party. Consider that both of them owe their existence to the other. In D.C. you owe your first allegiance to your party and your second allegiance to the “ other “ party.

When I spoke of the game being rigged, I’m talking about governance, not elections. Each side will do their damnest to rig an election, of course, but they likely cancel each other out on that score.

But neither side wants to prevail on the issues that separate the electorate. The game would be over then and it’s the game that’s making them individually wealthy.

It is easy to espouse socialism when you are a billionaire.

But how can you forget it was capitalism that allowed you to build your wealth?

I just don't get the mindset.

The USA used to be a melting pot, but by the sounds of it, that is no longer true. Only a riding with a large Muslim enclave, with the help of unthinking idiots who vote Democrat because the family always has, or Trump is too mean, vote for a Muslim.

The funny thing is, why would Muslims vote for a woman? That runs contrary to the behavior we see in Saudi Arabia etc.

It was a melting pot for western europeans. The Founding Fathers never intended for it to be a receptacle for every wog on the planet.

Rotting Zombies can't be killed, but the rot progresses. (inappropriate word, in this context)

Willlburrrrr..............!

A horse is a horse, of course, of course.....

Unless things change, white birthing rate will be the death of conservatism.

Scary.

The Democrat Party and it's way of dividing people up into specific groups, by creating victims, is directly responsible for people like Cortez. The party couldn't survive without them because they have become the voter base. Whereas the Democrat voter base was once the working class White man, they tossed him aside in favor of minorities, women, queers, perverts, weirdos, and anyone else who viewed themselves as being "different."

She might not take over the party, but without her and her kind, the Democrats can't survive.