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#13550345 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: FieldGrade]  
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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
1,700 orders for seizures and no reports of anyone refusing to surrender their guns or of our loyal American LEO's refusing to enforce the unconstitutional seizures.

So much for "from my cold dead hands" eh.

Ain't nobody going to do sh-it ....


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#13550351 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: tpcollins]  
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Originally Posted by tpcollins
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Over stepping of government power.


Tell that to the parents where nut job Nicklaus Cruz was known to have made threats and given a pass by the police under obummer’s policy and wound up killing 17 people at the Parkland school shooting.


https://www.usnews.com/news/educati...licy-contribute-to-the-parkland-shooting


Red flag laws don't work....last year, a lifelong family friend and her son....along with several other people were shot and killed in Tehama Ca.by a person whom she had a restraining order against....he was supposed to have had all his weapons taken when he was arrested for felony assault (IIRC) about 4 months earlier.... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...d-students-during-tehama-county-shooting

Firearms laws only work with people who don't break the law....

#13550413 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: ol_mike]  
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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
1,700 orders for seizures and no reports of anyone refusing to surrender their guns or of our loyal American LEO's refusing to enforce the unconstitutional seizures.

So much for "from my cold dead hands" eh.

Ain't nobody going to do sh-it ....


yep.....just a bunch of chest pounding and empty threats......sorta like the 'fire.


Post a pic of a box of puppies on the Fire' and someone will eventually find fault with it.

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#13550608 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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According to the linked article the vast majority of applications for seizure were made by Law Enforcement...not family members.


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#13550677 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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Thats how it works. They just keep chipping away until you have nothing left. People have been talking about this as far back as I can remember. How's that working out.

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#13550754 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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I have a little different take on the subject.

A very close friend of mine was an addict. I set up the 3rd or 4th intervention and one of the last things I did was to call his adult son and ask "Do I need to remove the guns" . I did not think I did and neither did his son. In less that 24 hours he had committed suicide by gun, literally hours before we put him back into treatment.

I don't think it is an accident that the Las Vegas shooter stands out as almost the lone exception who gave no advance warning of what he was going to do, and the many if not most of the mass shooters gave ample and fairly good warning before hand. I doubt we are anywhere near as good at seeing the warnings before hand as we are in retrospect, and we may not catch even half of them. But...that sure as hell shouldn't prevent us from trying and as long as we respect due process we can provide a system biased to err on whichever side of caution we as a society deem appropriate.

#13550978 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: MILES58]  
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Originally Posted by MILES58
I But...that sure as hell shouldn't prevent us from trying and as long as we respect due process we can provide a system biased to err on whichever side of caution we as a society deem appropriate.
These red-flag laws have NO PROVISION for any such 'due process' and are ABSOLUTELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL...

Plain and simple..


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#13550997 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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No one wants a nut to shoot a bunch of innocent people. But its like the camel sticking his nose in the tent on a cold night. Where does it end. Hasbeen


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#13551080 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: FieldGrade]  
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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
1,700 orders for seizures and no reports of anyone refusing to surrender their guns or of our loyal American LEO's refusing to enforce the unconstitutional seizures.

So much for "from my cold dead hands" eh.


Well, there was at least one..........And he be det.

Link.

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#13551097 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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You know the media will not report people who decided not to surrender.


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#13551127 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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What a wonderful idea for those wishing to circumvent due process and other antiquated concepts like "innocent until proven guilty". Because it's all about public safety and common sense, right? We simply can't have nut cases owning firearms.......... Because it's "common knowledge", and "everyone knows" that gun owners are all nuts and therefore dangerous and we have to remove firearms from the mentally unstable, especially those involved with neo-nazi, right wing, extremist hate groups like the NRA and GOA. And we don't need no stinking "due process" B.S. to do it !!................ Welcome to the great society, folks.

#13551163 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: hasbeen1945]  
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Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
No one wants a nut to shoot a bunch of innocent people. But its like the camel sticking his nose in the tent on a cold night.
.. That ain't the nose - it's the entire camel...
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Where does it end. Hasbeen
The 2nd Revolutionary war... CITIZENS against tyrannical gov't...


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#13551173 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: Raeford]  
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Originally Posted by Raeford
Eight years of obama appointed judges..



But overstepping their job description goes on.


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#13551199 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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How many of these shooters did the police know about and had previous runs ins with the police but they did nothing?


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#13551215 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: mtnsnake]  
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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
How many of these shooters did the police know about and had previous runs ins with the police but they did nothing?





How many of the gun owners posted something on the computer, and had their guns confiscated for words? They may have not gotten there yet. After all, they said they'd go back 4 years.


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#13551234 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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So scrub everything clean. Will not make a difference. Pointless discussion we do not control liberal judges or liberal people.


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#13551253 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: local_dirt]  
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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Raeford
Eight years of obama appointed judges..



But overstepping their job description goes on.




This time they found a friend that's more than willing to help







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#13551304 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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Along these lines, why are we not allowed to scrub posts or delete accounts on this website? So many people are losing their jobs because of their social media content. Posts I made before I had the employment I have now ... Well, you get the picture. The way things are set up here, I can only hope for the best. I need to stay employed for another 5 years at least, get my last kid through college.

#13551342 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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I need to stay employed for another 5 years at least, get my last kid through college.



I'm sure they've narrowed the search to gun owners only. 4473's, pictures posted, sites frequented, concealed carry licenses, members of gun organizations.


As long as you haven't spoken about your government, you'll probably be ok. Any dissent however, may have be noticed.


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#13551359 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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There are costs to living in a free society. Deaths from traffic accidents and from idiots with deadly weapons are just a couple of those costs.

Our forefathers made a poignant comment about trading freedoms for security, and not deserving either.

Furthermore, suicides should never be included in the equation. Suicide is a personal choice, and it is ridiculous to hold the rest of society liable for an idiot's bad choices.


My ideal as a conservative:

That each person may reap as he/she has sown.
#13551367 - 02/11/19 Re: Gun seizures spike [Re: watch4bear]  
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Suicide is a personal choice, and it is ridiculous to hold the rest of society liable for an idiot's bad choices.




Your attitude has been noticed eek


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