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1977 - Ruger 77 220 Swift

2 shots fired, 2 Texas Whitetail’s belly hit the ground before the head dropped.

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Originally Posted by borden811
I’ve only used it on one white tail myself, but my buddies kids have used my cz 527 in 221 fireball for the last 3 years, killing 4 deer between them. They’ve all been shot with my handloads using 45gr tsx. All shot in the lungs, and 3 of the 5 dropped on the spot. The other two ran about 30 yards. Recovered 1 bullet, and the other 4 passed through. All shots were under 100yds. It’s amazing how much damage that little bullet can do.



Seriously... I may have to get a hornet load worked up and restrict it to bow ranges and see how it goes


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I have seen it happen, the Hornady 55 grain bullet does work.

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22-250 14 or 8 twist, 55 gr sp > dead deer. Head, heart, neck, or lungs....


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Originally Posted by moosemike
Major cool points awarded for using a .225 Win. Always wanted one but never ran into one. I am using my 1-14" 22-250 this year though.


Thanks! What bullets will you be using in the 14 twist?


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Thanks for all the replies guys. Gives me confidence. I hunt woods in Pa where a long shot is 80 yards, so I think I should be well within the capabilities of the rifle.


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Small sample size of two KY WT's that I shot with a .223 before I started reloading. Both shot with green box 55gr SP's. Both required a second shot as a finisher. Yes, the .223 will work. However a definite case of "bullets matter".

I moved up to a .243 and put together a significant string of one shot DRT's with 95gr and 100gr NPT's. Never looked back at the .223...



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ScenarShooter, are those 55 Hornady's the same ones that are often on sale for < $0.10 each?


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Back in the 80’s, I started with a 22-250 (788) and then a mini-14. In those days about all there was were 55 grain bullet from the big 3. They playing field has changed.

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.223 53 grain Barnes ttsx.
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I've killed a clusterfhuck of black bears with .22 centerfires


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This 300lb boar was killed with one shot, with a .222 Remington.


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Originally Posted by Jevyod
Originally Posted by moosemike
Major cool points awarded for using a .225 Win. Always wanted one but never ran into one. I am using my 1-14" 22-250 this year though.


Thanks! What bullets will you be using in the 14 twist?


Remington 55 grains. Just like me and my pal used to use for deer back when we were teens.

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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
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I've killed a clusterfhuck of black bears with .22 centerfires


What's your preferred shot placement on Bear?

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I've killed a clusterfhuck of black bears with .22 centerfires


What's your preferred shot placement on Bear?


Behind the shoulder, broadside-lungs.


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Thanks. I've always been told if I try a Bear with a light rifle I have to go neck/head. I figured that wasn't the case.

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This one was a head shot at 250 yards with a 60gr Hornady hollow point. The only bear I've ever shot in the head.


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This one was from the fall of 1994. I found him in a chokecherry thicket, made a well executed stalk, keeping the wind perfect, and came out within 175 yards of where I'd seen him from a mile away.

After about a 10 minute wait, he stepped into a small opening and I fired one shot, aiming for the lungs. He only went about 50 feet.

My notes say: .220 Swift-55gr Spire point-46grs IMR 4831.


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Pat, have you suffered any failures that you feel were from using too light of a caliber?

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