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Yep.. sure do.. as an aside.. what is the suggested torque? My front seemed awfully tight. 60ish when I removed stock to adjust trigger. Do you still need two different torx heads to remove the stock? IIRC, 80 inch pounds. Gonna need a new driver if I ever take it apart. No need so far.
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Yep.. sure do.. as an aside.. what is the suggested torque? My front seemed awfully tight. 60ish when I removed stock to adjust trigger. Do you still need two different torx heads to remove the stock? IIRC, 80 inch pounds. Gonna need a new driver if I ever take it apart. No need so far. Thanks.. Mine is at 60-65 I think.. will have to recheck. Didn’t mean to derail thread.. apologies to OP
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The Montana stock on the FC would be Nirvana, IMO.
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The Montana stock on the FC would be Nirvana, IMO. What are the biggest differences in the stocks? I’ve never handled a Montana .
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They sound expensive.
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I sold mine because of stock ergonomics that don't work well for me, and the inability to get the scope low enough for good cheek weld with currently available mounts. The mounts are pretty limited. I went with the rail. Does anyone know why more companies aren’t producing bases ?
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Cite the "missing" mounts.
Hint..........
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This is what wasting your time looks like. No one cares what you think, they only respond to your posts to taunt you like the "special" kid at school.
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The Montana stock on the FC would be Nirvana, IMO. What are the biggest differences in the stocks? I’ve never handled a Montana . The Montana has a little shorter LOP, is more slender in the wrist, and the grip is ambidextrous.
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The Montana stock on the FC would be Nirvana, IMO. What are the biggest differences in the stocks? I’ve never handled a Montana . The Montana has a little shorter LOP, is more slender in the wrist, and the grip is ambidextrous. Thank you
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This is what wasting your time looks like. No one cares what you think, they only respond to your posts to taunt you like the "special" kid at school. My view as well
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Since I can't see his posts, maybe someone else can post some irrelevant pictures of fish.
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Tried a FC in 6.5 CM with intentions of long range mountain humping. I tried my best, but could not shoot the lightweight as good as an 8-9 pound rifle. I loved everything about the rifle... just couldn't shoot it well. The fault was on me, not the rifle. Now, i demand more from the rifle/scope/ammo/shooter experience than most people. My buddy was able to shoot it better than me. He has them in 243 and 308. With a Swaro 3-9/10 on top, they are a dream. ( All my opinion).
If they come out with a 280AI threaded... i WILL get one and LEARN to shoot lightweights.
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I don't care for the open slot beside the bolt that allows snow and crud to get into the magazine. I wouldn’t own a Barrett without a no.2 bbl. contour, otherwise I’d sooner have the the Kimber Montana. Since I own a 270 Barrett with a no.2 contour, my only complaint is that no X-low Talley Lightweight’s are available, and the fact the small diameter bolt creates a gap open to the mag well. I’d have given up a couple ounces to have a full sized bolt. OTOH, it’s not a deal killer. You live with it...
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I agree it's a bit challenging from the bench trying for tiny groups, but the two field shots I took, fairly close at foxes last month, seemed super easy, the rifle going off almost by itself at the right instant. I'll get in some serious practice in the off season and see if my impression is correct. It definitely carries easily, and I've not felt a need to switch shoulders while carrying it slung into my stand like some others. It's common for fans of heavy rifles to opine that one's better off losing ten pounds of body weight than worry about a pound or two of rifle weight, but my arms and shoulders don't get tired from my body weight, but they do from what I carry with them, and that can affect my shooting, especially on quick offhand shots.
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I had a hard-on for one of these until i finally got a chance to handle one, I got over it real fast when i shouldered it and found for Me it does not compare to the excellent ergo's of My Kimber Montana's and Sub Alpine rifles....I also did not care for the way the bolt handle attached, it looked like a weak point to me.....Hb
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The Montana stock on the FC would be Nirvana, IMO. That too. The longer mag box of the FC has me spoiled now. The 2.82” of the Montana is quite annoying now.
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I had a hard-on for one of these until i finally got a chance to handle one, I got over it real fast when i shouldered it and found for Me it does not compare to the excellent ergo's of My Kimber Montana's and Sub Alpine rifles....I also did not care for the way the bolt handle attached, it looked like a weak point to me.....Hb People seem to question the strength of the bolt handle attachment. I can tell you the design was physically tested with an automated machine that violently cycled the bolt locked and unclocked thousands of times. It was also subjected to stress in various directions. It really is good to go. The design intent was to have a robust attachment that did not induce heat to the bolt from soldering or welding and would allow for future modularity if a different bolt handle was desired. Raising the temp of the hardened steel to temps over 1000F can seriously affect the metallurgy in the high wear cam area at the rear of a bolt. That may not change opinions but just wanted to provide a little back-story.
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Clearly it's not a shortcut, but rather a well thought-out solution. I like one-piece bolts, but that usually means forging (Mausers, Howas) or casting (Rugers & MRC). The FC handle is dovetailed into a recess on the bolt body and pinned into place. The dovetail takes the strain. Not just Remingtons, but also the occasional post-64 M70s have trouble with the handles, not common, but possible, and a real thing, not just bashing.
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This is off the subject but I'm asking away.......since this thread is about why did you sell .... did anybody find the accuracy not up to par compared to the price? I'm not knocking the Fieldcraft cause I never owned one but a premium price should demand premium accuracy. I have been looking at the Fieldcrafts so accuracy is a concern but from the comments the LOP is HUGE concern also.
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